Plan to develop De Gea

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Constcrepe

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According to the Telegraph, Manchester United plan to 'cook up a plan to beef up their frail new goalkeeper David de Gea'.

De Gea, an £18.3 million signing from Atletico Madrid, was at fault for both of Manchester City's goals in Manchester United's Community Shield victory at Wembley and conceded another soft goal during Sunday's 2-1 Premier League win at West Bromwich. De Gea's fallibility when dealing with crosses and high balls into the six-yard box was also evident at The Hawthorns, but United manager Ferguson is understood to have no plans to drop the youngster in favour of Danish understudy Anders Lindegaard for Monday's clash with Tottenham at Old Trafford.

But while Ferguson believes De Gea's mistakes so far stem from positional issues which can be eradicated quickly, the Scot is aware of the need for De Gea, 20, to improve his physique in order to avoid being outmuscled by opponents. Ferguson complained of De Gea being subjected to over-physical 'abuse' by West Brom's players, a statement eerily similar to his response to Peter Schmeichel being tormented by Wimbledon's aerial bombardment in 1991. Ferguson said of the Dane at the time: "Any goalkeeper would be under pressure from their kind of physical attack. This is all new to him, having to collect so many crosses and high balls, but we knew that would be the case when we bought him." Schmeichel was a much more imposing, and experienced, figure than De Gea, but United have already mapped out a personalised training programme to accelerate De Gea's physical development.

Under the guidance of senior fitness coach Tony Strudwick, De Gea is expected to follow a similar programme to that laid down for Mexican forward Hernandez last season. Hernandez bulked up significantly and Patrice Evra and Cristiano Ronaldo have also benefited from fast-track fitness regimes at Old Trafford.

De Gea, who appears some way short of his alleged 6ft 4in frame, will be given similar treatment, with special emphasis on his diet. During the club's pre-season tour of the United States, Strudwick admitted the need to pay close attention to the individual needs of players, particularly new arrivals such as De Gea. "The Premier League is not the same as La Liga," said Strudwick. "What the modern player can expect now is personal attention. They deserve that. "The days of coming in at 9.30am, having a slice of toast, then jogging onto the training pitch are gone."

Ferguson's decision to pursue De Gea last season ahead of the likes of Germany's Manuel Neuer and Liverpool's Pepe Reina, who both came under consideration, was due to his belief that Petr Cech's success at Chelsea had dispelled the theory that young goalkeepers are not suited to the demands of the Premier League. Iker Casillas, the Spain and Real Madrid goalkeeper, has spoken highly of his young rival, claiming that ''he will pension us all off,'' but De Gea has shown signs of weakness that have already been noted by his team-mates. At The Hawthorns, both Phil Jones and Anderson were seen raising their arms to the goalkeeper in order to highlight the need for De Gea to be prepared to combat flailing arms, an issue which is unlikely to go away when United travel to unforgiving opponents such as Stoke City and Blackburn Rovers.

Eric Steele, United's goalkeeping coach, scouted De Gea for more than 18 months and said that he will be given time to adjust. "Did you see Edwin when he was 20?" Steele said. "There's work to be done, but no player is completely finished at 20.''

Off the pitch, De Gea is taking daily English lessons and has flown his girlfriend, the Spanish pop star Edurne, over to be with him in Manchester. But with a trip to the Britannia Stadium looming on Sept 24, the youngster will be expected to find his feet quickly if he is to settle on the pitch as well as he is settling off it.

Its still early days and I think the quote about Schmeichel needs to be recalled. Let the lad develop, have him coached and lets remember he's just turned 20 years old!!!!!!
 
Dropping him for the Tottenham game may be a good idea, give him a bit more time to train with his team mates and learn English before he plays again, and Lindegaard looks like a good understudy.
 
Lindegaard is a good keeper and will play at some point. There is no way even if De Gea was playing out of his skin that he will feature in every league and cup game.
 
Dropping him would be a horrendous idea, imagine the dent in his confidence.

I agree. But do you think he is ready for the physical aspect of the EPL? He looks very weak to be honest, and by not dropping him could have worse effects than dropping him.

It's a tricky one but surely the success of the team has to come first. I say you need to let him settle in and bulk up a bit then he'll be good to go <ok>
 
Agreed Skylarker. Despite costing what over £18 million, there is no certainty that De Gea must be number 1 right away. He has a long way to go in his development and I would not be disappointed to see Lindegaard get a run out.
 
Agreed Skylarker. Despite costing what over £18 million, there is no certainty that De Gea must be number 1 right away. He has a long way to go in his development and I would not be disappointed to see Lindegaard get a run out.

Exactly.

We have a similar situation with Henderson - he was bought in as we plan for the future, people think because we paid 16 mil he has to start. Absolute nonsense, you must do what is best for the club, long term De Gea will come good but by letting him play when he is clearly not ready is a dangerous strategy, not just for the team but for his personal development.

Ive seen a fair bit of Lindegaard and to be fair he looks good enough to step in for the first 10-15, and possibly more if need be.
 
Agreed Skylarker. Despite costing what over £18 million, there is no certainty that De Gea must be number 1 right away. He has a long way to go in his development and I would not be disappointed to see Lindegaard get a run out.

Its a delicate situation though, if we drop DDG we run the risk of shattering his confidence beyond repair but if he continues to make these mistakes every game its unfair to the impressive Lindegaard if we ignore him.

Should SAF be as ruthless as he is with other positions and play the form player?It keeps the rest of the squad on their toesOr does he keep faith with the young stopper, knowing that he needs a couple of good performances under his belt before we can give him a rest without affecting his confidence?I think he will wait untill DDG has a few good games, then he can drop him and allow Lindegaard to fight for his place.
 
Its a delicate situation though, if we drop DDG we run the risk of shattering his confidence beyond repair but if he continues to make these mistakes every game its unfair to the impressive Lindegaard if we ignore him.

Should SAF be as ruthless as he is with other positions and play the form player?It keeps the rest of the squad on their toesOr does he keep faith with the young stopper, knowing that he needs a couple of good performances under his belt before we can give him a rest without affecting his confidence?I think he will wait untill DDG has a few good games, then he can drop him and allow Lindegaard to fight for his place.

Yeah true. But, Ferguson is clearly an excellent manager so man management will be a huge asset of his. Therefore, making players feel comfortable with whatever decision he makes should be straight forward.

You can't just play someone because of the price tag. At the end of the day, no player is bigger than the club, and risking playing players that are not ready is not a good idea. Fergie may truly believe he is ready and stick with him (after all we don't know how training etc is going). But im sure if it is agreed that he needs to develop to suit the premier league he will be fine with that.

It is a very delicate situation though, agreed.
 
With the back four being now comprised of young players, now could be the time De Gea starts to waken up though he still needs to bulk up and harden up.
 
Its a delicate situation though, if we drop DDG we run the risk of shattering his confidence beyond repair but if he continues to make these mistakes every game its unfair to the impressive Lindegaard if we ignore him.

I doubt we'll shatter his confidence beyond repair! Provided it's handled correctly, dropping him could boost his confidence levels cos we could put a clear plan in place to help him address his weaknesses and stop them being targeted by the opposition week in week out. I can't remember a case of a goalkeeper having their confidence shot by being dropped, but can remember plenty of keepers who never recovered from a long spell in the side when they had an obvious weakness that showed up in every game.
 
With the back four being now comprised of young players, now could be the time De Gea starts to waken up though he still needs to bulk up and harden up.

I hope so, it would be the perfect time to impress.I think he will be unrecognisable next season, a weights programme and most importantly, a good shave and he will be sorted.

Skylarker

True, I am underestimating SAF`s man-management skills.I`m just slightly worried about the young Spaniard being swallowed up by the enormity of the situation he now finds himself in, though he does seam a confident lad and he will be given the best advice going.
 
I doubt we'll shatter his confidence beyond repair! Provided it's handled correctly, dropping him could boost his confidence levels cos we could put a clear plan in place to help him address his weaknesses and stop them being targeted by the opposition week in week out. I can't remember a case of a goalkeeper having their confidence shot by being dropped, but can remember plenty of keepers who never recovered from a long spell in the side when they had an obvious weakness that showed up in every game.

Taibi never recovered, for us, after being dropped for his Southampton howler and that was after an outstanding debut display at Anfield.Though he returned to Italy and regained form.He done an interview with MUTV that was recently aired, I think it was on "When the floodlights fade", he still seams affected by being regarded as a bit of a Donkey in England, both him and his wife went to great lengths to explain that he was still highly regarded in Italy and that his reputation in England was totally undeserved!

Bosnich was another keeper that never recovered after losing his OT place but I think that was more down to the back pass rule destroying his career rather than a United snub.
 
Bosnich was another keeper that never recovered after losing his OT place but I think that was more down to the back pass rule destroying his career rather than a United snub.

Strange that cause the exact same thing happened to Liverpool's ability to win titles around the same time the back pass rule was introduced. Spooky!!! <ghost>
 
Taibi never recovered, for us, after being dropped for his Southampton howler and that was after an outstanding debut display at Anfield.Though he returned to Italy and regained form.He done an interview with MUTV that was recently aired, I think it was on "When the floodlights fade", he still seams affected by being regarded as a bit of a Donkey in England, both him and his wife went to great lengths to explain that he was still highly regarded in Italy and that his reputation in England was totally undeserved!

Taibi's actually the perfect example of what I'm talking about. He played great against Liverpool, but flapped at a free kick to allow them to score. Then had five put past him against Chelsea with more flapping, and then was kept in the side for Southampton by which point his confidence was completely shot and he couldn't even keep out a simple drive from Le Tissier. If he'd been dropped after the Chelsea match he might have had a chance to get his confidence back rather than having it damaged even more. After the Southampton game he never played for us again, and played pretty well for Reggina, so you can't say whether being dropped had a positive or negative impact.

Bosnich was another keeper that never recovered after losing his OT place but I think that was more down to the back pass rule destroying his career rather than a United snub.

Bosnich's career never recovered cos his fitness was poor and he was fired by Chelsea for taking coke. And he wasn't just dropped for a game or two, he was outright replaced by Barthez. I'm not suggesting we should buy another keeper, just that maybe De Gea should be taken out of the firing line for a game or two rather than risk his slips becoming a full fledged crisis.