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Daily thread tuesday august 16.

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Cyclonic, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. Sizing

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    I seem to have lost the ability to type as well "thoughts" "off".
     
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  2. NassauBoard

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    Sizing when I was talking about Clive Brittain earlier that was one of his two who won so nicely at Beverley, the only thing about the pair is that I am wary about taking that Beverley form too seriously because the ground was rather bad that day. They also came down what perhaps was the best area of ground so could be a little flattered. That said I think it has a great chance of following up in what looks a modest race. I quite like Mangham in the race but I will be just watching (well I won't as I have to go and have a sodding MRI Scan)
     
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    Nass: And you also mean Mel Brittain :wink:

    Sizing: Both his LTO winners could go in off their penalties but agree with Nass about the Beverley form <ok>
     
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    Best of luck with your recovery nass - i know what its like as i was in hospital for four months after a car crash - just when i thought i was getting better i was rear ended by another car - keep the faith
     
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  5. Sizing

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    Cheers for that Nass, the way it finished lto makes me wary of it's drop in trip as well even though it has ran well over shorter before.
    Hope the scan goes ok and that you are in good health!
     
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    <laugh> Clive and Mel, who cares both are tosh trainers!!!

    ADM - Cheers I hope you are well too
     
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    keep giving me winners and i will be just fine
     
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  8. NassauBoard

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    Gaz, also when was the last time Mel was in form? Him and Berry are recovering from their positions next to Larry in my list of can't train for fudge. Shame the same can't be said for the lovely Ann!
     
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    It's a desparate day up here again and the racing looks dire! I do like the look of 2 though and 2 that I will be watching the market for:

    245 Muss: Sandwith ran well at Catterick (what a lovely racecourse and superb placepot payer :wink:) on Friday and could win today, nice EW bet.

    820Kemp: Accustomed was beaten by a Mark Johnston hotpot LTO but is well bred and ran OK, another nice EW shot.

    2 to watch the market are:

    620Kemp: Novirak makes debut for Skeletor and if the money comes..........
    720Kemp: Favourite should win for Sir Mark but if it doesnt get home then Andrew Baldings well related Polytrack type Cherry Street would be a nice priced winner.

    Be Lucky all who play <cheers>
     
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    Nass: Mel is a funny trainer but you are 100% correct about him not being in form often mate!

    Don't back Clive Brittains often so wouldn't know <cool>

    Best of British with the scan mate
     
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    I guess Dandy will get a fine for the double entry today at Musselburgh... Must be well handicapped if he is entering it in two races on the same card!
     
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    Clive a tosh trainer <laugh> that is a funny statement - even if you were joking on
     
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  13. NassauBoard

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    He is, 3% strike rate on turf this season says it all. 4 wins this season with all the horses he has is a shocking statistic, put that into context Mel had a treble at Beverley last week and he trains monkeys and dogs in general.

    Or for even more effect - Andrew Haynes has had 17 winners on turf and Attwater has even had the same amount of turf winners as Clive!!!
     
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    Alan Berry has had twice as many winners as Clive Brittain <laugh>
     
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    Nass: That Dr Red Eye would have a great chance dropped into a claimer but Bolodenka won sooooo easily LTO and has winning course form and Hanagan the managan riding! Could be the FC though <laugh>
     
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    Nass: Havent seen Ann or Gary (her partner who is hilarious) about at all for ages, wonder if she has handed in her licence?
     
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    Nass the bloke is about 163 years old ffs he doesn't get the horses he used to - just take a look at what he has won in the past - fantastic trainer just doesn't get the quality horses any more <laugh>
     
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  18. Sizing

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    Cheers chaps! Have Risked it in a small trixie with Grey Command at Muss and Cheylesmore at Brighton. Had a fair weekend so don't mind risking a couple of quid for interest.
     
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    This is a bloke you are calling a tosh trainer <laugh> <laugh>you stick to Attwater <run>


    1,000 Guineas - (2) - Pebbles (1984), Sayyedati (1993)
    2,000 Guineas - (1) - Mystiko (1991)
    Champion Stakes - (1) - Pebbles (1985)
    Cheveley Park Stakes - (1) - Sayyedati (1992)
    Coronation Cup - (2) - Warrsan (2003, 2004)
    Coronation Stakes - (1) - Crimplene (2000)
    Eclipse Stakes - (1) - Pebbles (1985)
    Falmouth Stakes - (2) - Gussy Marlowe (1992), Rajeem (2006)
    Fillies' Mile - (3) - Ivanka (1992), Teggiano (1999), Hibaayeb (2009)
    International Stakes - (1) - Terimon (1991)
    Nassau Stakes - (1) - Crimplene (2000)
    Oaks - (1) - User Friendly (1992)
    Queen Anne Stakes - (2) - Sikeston (1991), Alflora (1993)
    Queen Elizabeth II Stakes - (1) - Air Express (1997)
    St. James's Palace Stakes - (2) - Averof (1974), Radetzky (1976)
    St. Leger - (2) - Julio Mariner (1978), User Friendly (1992)
    Sun Chariot Stakes - (1) - Warning Shadows (1995)
    Sussex Stakes - (1) - Sayyedati (1995)
    Yorkshire Oaks - (1) - User Friendly (1992)

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    France
    Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud - (1) - User Friendly (1993)
    Prix de l'Abbaye de Longchamp - (1) - Var (2004)
    Prix Jacques Le Marois - (1) - Sayyedati (1993)
    Prix Jean Prat - (1) - Lapierre (1988)

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    Germany
    Deutschland-Preis - (1) - Luso (1997)
    Grosser Preis von Baden - (2) - Warrsan (2004, 2005)
    Mehl-Mülhens-Rennen - (1) - Air Express (1997)
    Rheinland-Pokal - (2) - Luso (1996, 1998)

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    Hong Kong
    Hong Kong Vase - (2) - Luso (1996, 1997)

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    Ireland
    Irish 1,000 Guineas - (1) - Crimplene (2000)
    Irish Oaks - (1) - User Friendly (1992)
    Moyglare Stud Stakes - (1) - Sayyedati (1992)

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    Italy
    Derby Italiano - (2) - Hailsham (1991), Luso (1995)
    Oaks d'Italia - (1) - Menhoubah (2004)
    Premio Parioli - (1) - Air Express (1997)
    Premio Presidente della Repubblica - (2) - Sikeston (1991, 1992)
    Premio Regina Elena - (1) - Love of Dubai (2008)
    Premio Roma - (1) - Sikeston (1991)
    Premio Vittorio di Capua - (2) - Sikeston (1990, 1991)

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    Japan
    Japan Cup - (1) - Jupiter Island (1986)

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    United States
    Breeders' Cup Turf - (1) - Pebbles (1985)
     
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  20. NassauBoard

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    If I had the money he has behind him I would win more than that amount of races in 40 years of training. The fact remains in the last five seasons he has a strike rate of 8%, and he hasn't made the most out of the backing by Saeed Manana.

    All you have to do is look at the comparitive records of him and John Dunlop to see what I am talking about. They have been training for the same sort of timescales and John is still producing winners (32 this season) from a similar sort of team.
     
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