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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    Theresa May is the political equivalent of Carragher in the own goals stakes.
    She wanted a bigger majority. If the polls are anywhere near accurate, she won't have a majority at all!!
     
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  2. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    Soon to be ex-PM Theresa May
     
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  3. deedub93

    deedub93 Well-Known Member

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    Ex Home Secretary as well, recount in Hastings. Will rudderless be set adrift?

    Edit: Not quite, 346 majority.
     
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  4. deedub93

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    Might be a good time to put some money on Ruth Davidson becoming the next PM.
     
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  5. Spudulike

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    Most of us saw this coming yet the media are in total meltdown that a hung Parliament is the net result of the GE. Did they not see the size and scale of some of Corbyn's rallies? They were huge!

    Theresa May needs to check in with her local hospital (if it's still open) for having a severe case of self-harming. She's either extremely arrogant or a masochist. Who on earth calls a snap general election and then literally tells everyone to talk to the hand when asked to debate, answer questions or discuss the Tory manifesto?

    This was no surprise. This was self-destruction by design.

    The biggest bombshell was my own constituency in Canterbury just went to Labour for the first time in 99 years, with Rosie Duffield winning by 187 votes. That was an increase in vote share by over 20%!!! Our complacent, bone idle Tory MP Julian Brazier did nothing this campaign. He thought he could just win by turning up to the vote count. Hmm... sound familiar?

    Our hospital is about to close this month, which I marched in protest of, and he just sat by and let this happen - he had it coming.

    I have never voted Labour in my life ever but this was a first for me. I congratulate Rosie Duffield on her win. She busted her backside to win this seat and I hope she does manage to keep some promises she made during the campaign. <applause><applause><applause>

    As for May, she called the election. She gambled, she lost. She has to go. Word is, she's refusing. Total dictator! :emoticon-0173-middl
     
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  6. Listening to James Comeys testimony yesterday showed a couple of things to me.
    1. That a decent, honourable man can effectively stand up against an arrogant bullying administration and
    2. The leader of that administration and his closest advisers seriously misjudged the situation facing them (and of their own making)
    Sound familiar, Mrs May?? :emoticon-0138-think

    Comey was very impressive and measured, but still fired some serious munitions into the heart of Dumpfs White House. In fact you could almost call his performance Presidential (in the traditional sense, rather than in the current sense acting like an fascist orangutan with dementia).
     
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  7. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    So how long will it be before somebody uses the phrase "strong and stable" unironically? Five years?

    Also, has anyone told the BBC they can play Liar, Liar now?
     
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  8. The Changing Man

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    Great post
     
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  9. The RDBD

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    In terms of the "right stuff" concept, citizen May has proven herself
    to be the inverse Trump.

    Right stuff (perhaps) for the day to day minutiae of performing the
    role of PM, definitely not for the being the front of a political party
    during a general election campaign.

    Love em or hate em, the one thing the Tories do not tolerate is
    failure such as this. She will be stabbed soon enough with their
    usual ruthless efficiency.
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    I did see comment bandied around, often by the attack dogs flooding comments sections on the Guardian, Independent and various blogs, that it didn't matter that thousands were turning up to see Corbyn's rallies, as none of those people would be voting. Similar was said about his popularity on social media.

    In other words, another display of the usual Tory combination of malice, arrogance and incompetence.
     
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  11. The RDBD

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    Were they huge in the places where Labour had serious majorities to overturn ??
    If not, then you have fallen to the same fallacious reasoning that beset the likes of
    Clinton in 2016.

    Just a cursory look at the voter stats tells you why the key premise to increase the
    Tory majority failed. The reason why they lost all those seats in England : pin some
    of that on the atrocious campaign performance of citizen May (enough IMHO to
    cost the Tories their majority at the very least) .
     
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  12. But Labour still LOST - heavily!! :emoticon-0138-think
    The next few days and weeks will be interesting, with the likelihood of yet another election. Oh joy!! <yikes>

    What I am surprised at is the level of increased support for the Tories in Scotland. Bearing in mind the universally strong anti-Brexit feeling north of the border, the obvious beneficiaries of an unhappiness with the SNP Independence agenda would have been the LibDems, yet their gains haven't been on the same scale.
    Scots voting Tory at the moment seems a bit of a 'Turkeys voting for Xmas' option!!!
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    Isn't it funny how the following Tory MPs have been very, very quiet this morning
    Boris Johnson
    Phillip Hammond
    David Davies
    Michael Gove

    It's almost as if they might be plotting something...
     
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  14. deedub93

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    I think the Scots basically were saying that they don't want another referendum right now. It's all about timing and now is not the right time. The Tories also have quite a charismatic leader in Ruth Davidson (soon to replace Theresa Dismay at number 10, you read it here first, the Tories love a winner). I don't think the result is surprising at all.

    If Dismay doesn't resign, it needs 48 letters of dissatisfaction to the 1922 committee and a vote of no confidence is triggered. When she loses that, a leadership election would be triggered within the Tory Party. That is the party rule.

    Those letters will be there over the weekend, and Mrs May will then be told to go, a snap leadership election would be too damaging to the Conservative Party. BoJo will probably kick off as favourite, but the Tories love a winner. Ruth Davidson is the only Tory who can hold her head high today.
     
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  15. deedub93

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    They are all losers, none of those will be elected.
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

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    If they knife the Dire Leader they won't have to be.

    The one that gets me is there's people talking up Liam Fox, somehow forgetting that MI5 really should've taken him aside for a private chat for allowing a civilian to sit in on top secret meetings.
     
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  17. deedub93

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    Perhaps that's why she wanted to bring back Fox hunting?
     
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  18. deedub93

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    Current odds
    Boris Johnson - 2/1

    Phillip Hammond - 7/1

    Sajid Javid - 12/1

    Michael Gove - 14/1

    Amber Rudd - 16/1

    Ruth Davidson - 20/1

    Jeremy Hunt - 20/1

    Liz Truss - 25/1

    George Osborne - 25/1

    Matthew Hancock - 25/1

    Got to be worth a Punt on Ruth, Jeremy Hunt, 20:1, someones having a laugh
     
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  19. humanbeingincroydon

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    I cannot believe that Twat Goldsmith somehow crawled back into Richmond Park, even more annoying that it was by 55 votes.
     
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  20. deedub93

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    Another loser, Just ask Sadiq Khan.
     
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