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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jun 6, 2017.

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  1. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    I love poverty. There's nothing worse than spending a few hundred on some nice new clobber to then see every tramp on a council estate wearing it.
     
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    Seriously do you write leaders for the Express? if not you ought to.
     
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  3. PLT

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    When it suits there's loads of money for media backhanders and dodgy deals where people with links to the Tories win and the country loses. Look at that TTIP deal that thankfully got shot down. It would have been awful for the NHS and the state, but they were in favour of it for ages. The lobbying by certain big businesses or wealthy individuals is far too powerful in getting them what they want. May's husband just happens to be involved with a fund that benefits from tax avoidance schemes and makes literally trillions. Obviously just a coincidence how there's no appetite to close the Mayfair loopholes. With that in mind, it's disgusting and downright insulting when they say there's no money for the NHS or other public services. The country's money should be for the country.
     
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    and re mortgage!!!!!
     
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  5. Amin Yapusi

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    Have you read the labour manifesto? The only spending they've pledged to balance is to bring public services spending out of defecit. That means everything else that needs paying for will be borrowed.
     
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  6. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    I don't know if anyone else is in a similar position to me and Filey, but we DEPEND on the NHS - for day-to-day wellbeing (and our very lives.

    I just cannot vote for a government which is starving that NHS of funds, running it down, and selling it off to their mates and donors.

    My very life may depend on the result.
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    The TTIP wasn't a Conservative Party thing, it was a European proposal and it was supported by Labour in the last election. <doh>
     
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  8. Amin Yapusi

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    Oh but Corbz is such a nice bloke. He's one of the people.
     
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  9. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    Have you got a credit card, Bob?
     
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  10. Amin Yapusi

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    Nope. Only debt I have will be a mortgage next week.

    If I can't afford it I don't buy it.
     
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    You keep mentioning the previous Labour party but I don't care about them. I didn't vote for them and never particularly liked them. Corbyn's labour is entirely different which is why I support them.

    I know it was a European thing but it was backed by the government under loads of public pressure. It was an incredibly damaging proposal. We all know why they backed it despite it making no sense for the country.
     
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    Same here - but millions do and it's just a matter of using/enjoying now and paying later.

    Just like national investment.
     
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  14. Amin Yapusi

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    It's a surefire road to poverty.

    Considering national investment only keeps getting more expensive year by year it's not a viable strategy in the slightest, is it?
     
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    He's a muppet, that's what he is.

    He's anti establishment yet suddenly proclaims to be pro police and security services, which is nonsense.

    His half wit mate McDonnell wants MI5 and the branch of armed police to be disbanded. That's hasn't been mentioned of late though, wonder why?

    It's all lies, lies and more lies to try and reel in the gullible, they'd soon change their tune once they got in.

    Corbyn has voted against new, stricter anti terror legislation 58 times.

    He's not the messiah or the saviour of this nation.

    He's a dangerous activist who doesn't live in the real world.

    FACT.
     
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    They've explained how things will be paid for. Income Tax raises for the very top percentage of salaries, an excessive pay levy on people earning over £330k per year. If anyone thinks that isn't excessive I despair. Clampdown on tax avoidance, extending stamp duty to banking transactions, scrapping VAT exemption on private school fees (why the **** is that a thing?) and other stuff. It's all there.
     
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  17. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    Terrorism Act 2000
    This legislation - introduced by the Labour government - gave a broad definition of terrorism for the first time. The Act also gave the police the power to detain terrorist suspects for up to seven days and created a list of proscribed terrorist organisations.

    Corbyn: Voted against it

    Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001
    This was passed after the 11 September attacks in New York. It allowed foreign terrorist suspects to be detained indefinitely.

    Corbyn: Voted against it

    Fourteen-day detention
    This was a measure, contained in the Criminal Justice Act 2003, which allowed the police to question terrorist suspects for up to 14 days.

    Corbyn: Voted against it

    Control Orders
    The creation of control orders was contained within the 2005 Prevention of Terrorism Act. A form of house arrest, control orders were replaced by Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures - or TPims - in 2012.

    Corbyn: Voted against it

    ID cards
    Legislation which paved the way for the controversial introduction of ID cards, was introduced by the Labour government in 2006. The coalition government, with Mrs May as home secretary, would go on to scrap the scheme in 2010.

    Corbyn: Voted against it

    Ninety-day detention
    Drafted in the aftermath of the London 7/7 bombings, this legislation - part of the 2006 Terrorism Act - extended the detention-without-charge period from 14 to 28 days. The Labour government was forced to back down after trying to convince Parliament to back 90 days.

    Corbyn: Voted against at every stage

    Counter-terrorism Act 2008
    This legislation gave powers to the police to question terrorist suspects after they had been charged. It also tried to extend detention without charge to 42 days, but the Labour government abandoned this after being defeated in the House of Lords.

    Corbyn: Voted against it

    Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Act
    This was the 2011 legislation used to replace control orders with TPims.

    Corbyn: Voted against it

    Justice and Security Act 2013
    This legislation granted controversial new powers to close court doors on the grounds of national security. It allowed ministers to ask for a "closed material procedure" - an order to bar the public, press and claimant in a case from court.

    Corbyn: Voted against it

    The Investigatory Powers Act 2016
    Referred to as the "snooper's charter" by critics, this legislation allowed for the bulk interception of communications.

    Corbyn: Absent from the vote
     
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  19. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    I think it's pretty good that Corbyn voted against most of that anti-terror stuff. Government shouldnt be allowed to spy on and detain anyone they want without charge. I'm still not voting labour mind.
     
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