Off Topic General Election Special

Are Tory voters happy with, perhaps even inspired, by May at the moment?

Genuinely interested to know.

 

Fair point...He had dual Italian-Moroccan citizen, but we still couldn't have deported him back to Morocco, even if he wasn't half Italian.. The other scumbag was Libyan-Moroccan. I bet the same rule applied to him.

 

Are you a politician?

That didn't answer the question I asked in the slightest.....

I didn't want it to become a May v Corbyn question, more a question on people's thoughts on civil liberties and the Human Rights laws.

 

I am voting conservative not because of May, but because I believe in a low tax society not a high tax society.

So do I believe May has had a good campaign? No. But I vote based on the policies of the day not on the leader.

 

I know, I never said we were.

Schengen were alerted, British border police were alerted as a result of that, we still let him in.

 

One should never vote based on a leader.

 

Fair enough.

Both for me, I find Corbyn inspiring and really like his policies too. Inspiring resilience as well.

 

I think her approach to Brexit will damage the country, as well as her continuation of austerity. I agree she's been hopeless. Despite not liking her at all I didn't see vulnerability in her, now it's everywhere.

Most interesting election of my lifetime.

 

With no money to work with borrowing is inevitable, but the tories have clearly managed that borrowing better. As I said plot it on a graph including inflation and witness how the incline immediately becomes more gentle. Politicians who make these points are well aware of the truth of the situation but headline figures omitting various factors written down on a piece of paper look far worse than the reality. There are so many who won't bother to find out for themselves, which is why 'dishonesty' (as it's not all out lies, but being economic with the truth) is such an effective and widely used tactic.

I don't disagree about 10000 extra police being better than none, I was complaining about the nature of the rhetoric. Labour spitting feather that Theresa May dare make any cuts to the police at all after being advised not to by all and sundry, but quietly they're only putting half back. So if May hadn't cut any at all would labour now be proposing to cut 10000 saying we don't need so many?

 

Pardon me, this is a thread about the GE, and the entire human rights issue has come to the fore because of Mays comments, which imo was a deflection away from the failings of the dept she was responsible for.

However, regarding human rights, it depends on the specifics of any proposals as to whether I would support it or not. I've heard internment mentioned, but I think that would be counter productive as it was the last time we tried that tack in the 70's

 

All politicians are hopeless, they are in the Westminster bubble. They need to get into the real world, especially Corbyn/Abbott/ McDonnell/Thornberry. God help us if they were to form a cabinet. We'll be in deeper $hit then we are with the Tories.

 

Yes you wonder what people here would think if Isle of Wight and Isle of Man where Argentinian

 

How have they managed that borrowing better exactly? How is borrowing £60bn a year somehow an improvement on £40bn? What have we seen done with that money? Did I imagine austerity?

 

I think her approach to austerity has damaged the country, unless of course we ignore 20,000 police losing their jobs, NHS funding crises, record numbers using food banks...

 

I wholeheartedly agree.

 

Free from what? Trump’s back pocket. Pretty embarrassing how much he gushes and fawns over the Trump.

Although, back to home, even Farage said this about Corbyn recently :

“I may not agree with @jeremycorbyn but he came across as being totally sincere.”

 

Nope! She'll be gone soon win or lose!

 

I can get why Corbyn might be inspiring, but that depends on your views on politics. I don't believe in nationalisation, and I don't believe his plans are fairer. It is taking money from high earners to give to others. That's not fair at all.

I can't stand Corbyn, but his election campaign has clearly been far superior to May's.