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  1. SimonGraysJacket

    SimonGraysJacket Well-Known Member

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    She was in West Park handing leaflets out before the Spurs game as you approach the west stand reception.
    She was also in town the following Sunday handing leaflets out near masters bar.
    I shook her hand for perhaps too long and got frowned at by her security team.
    She is not in my consituency but I never told her that :emoticon-0115-inlov
     
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  2. The greengrocer

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    It depends what you mean by fairer? Giving everyone a pay rise? Let's pay everyone lots of money and worry about the cost another day? <laugh>
     
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  3. Craigo

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    Whatever happens Corbyn has reminded people of something I thought was totally extinct in this country - a social conscience.
     
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  4. The greengrocer

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    Sat cosying up to the IRA?
     
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  5. Craigo

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    At the same time the Tory government was.
     
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  6. PLT

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    The railways and the energy industry are an absolute joke. It isn't and never has been in anyone's interest for these things to be privatised apart from the bigwig who gets to buy it for **** all and make megabucks off it.
     
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  7. The greengrocer

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    So that's been admitted and can I google it?
     
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  8. City Man

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    Sadly his pro IRA and anti British stance over decades is well documented, so precludes him from being worthy of public office.
    He voted against the peace process and Anglo Irish Agreement in the 80s and 90s. He also attended pro IRA terrorist commemorations from 1986 and 1992. His appointed Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell opposed the Peace Process as late as 1998, and said 'thanks to the bravery of the IRA and people like Bobby Sands, we now have a peace process.'
    That's the IRA who bombed, shot and beat to death 1,696 men, women and children, and who failed to unite Ireland.
     
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  9. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    I think they were all talking to Sinn Fein; the IRA were a secret force, like INLA, UDF, UDA, etc.

    David Ervine was an ex-UDA hard-liner, but in order to get to a settlement, all sides had to be talked to.
     
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  10. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    It's nice we agree on summat.
     
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  11. PLT

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    It's all fully costed though so what's the problem? Why would people be against ideas like NHS staff getting a reasonable wage when it's absolutely affordable. When it suits the establishment there's millions and billions lying around to spend on their mates. Were fed this crap that we need to keep corporation tax low or the corporations will all **** off but where are they gonna go? Most other major countries have higher corporation tax than us and even they don't seem to have an issue attracting and keeping business.

    It just seems like people are fed this message that we can't have nice things because it isn't possible, but there's plenty of wealth in this country. There's loads of money sloshing about but it's all in the back pockets of a handful of dodgy ****ers.
     
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  12. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    But whatever, it's mostly over now. You can't see where the border and border posts were. The great fear is that Brexit will bring back a hard border. Again.
     
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  13. SimonGraysJacket

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    It's an election that did not need to happen and it has backfired on May.
    She has seemed weak and wobbly, and Corbyn has proved to be a very good speaker, and a nice bloke.
    However, Corbyn is surrounded by utter baffoons, Dianne Abbott is a disgrace, and if she is the next home secretary it really is time to emigrate.
    The terror attacks have actually slowed down some of Labours momentum (no conspiracy implied or believed, just a sad fact).
    I will be voting Conservative mainly for economic reasons and the belief that May despite her flaws is the only person willing to take on the EU.
    The labour "magic money tree" scares me, and hiking corporation tax to 26% will unsettle businesses when we need stability with the Brexit negotiations ahead.
    But a completely uninspiring election overall that seems to have dragged on for months.
    I will be glad when Friday is here, (as i suspect OLM will be too!!)
     
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    I don't want to go on but why is it a magic money tree other than that being the Tory soundbyte? The costings are all there. It's entirely affordable.
     
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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    <applause> ****ing hell can we have a joint ticket Bob and plt <applause>
     
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  16. The greengrocer

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    So I run a business and all of a sudden I have to pay £10 an hour wages to a girl stood on a till? Then your mrs walks in one day and complains that everythings doubled in price? Then everyone's wages rise are worthless!! <laugh> Not to mention the people who get laid off to cut costs! <doh>
     
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  17. SimonGraysJacket

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    I know its never going to happen, but one day some party needs to have the balls to come out and say, right income tax for people earning over £25K is going up 3%. 1% will go to NHS, 1% to the police/border force, 1% to build more prisons. I and many I know would vote for this. Sadly, the politicians are too busy with their snouts in the trough to risk being out of a job.
     
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  18. Party Hull!

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    Theresa May deserves to have her hubris punished. I hope Corbyn hasn't peaked already, but this has been a fantastic campaign that he's run, summoning the spirit of Bernie Sanders.

    The other good thing to come out of this is that her confidence has been punctured - and she's deserved it. She is nowhere near the strong & stable leader she thinks she is - she's looked rattled time and again when a tough question comes her way, and she does not like coming into contact with the general public oiks. Jeremy has shone when faced with the public.

    Corbyn has just pressed on with the same message he has always done, and when not been smeared/ignored/written off completely by the mainstream media he has connected with large swathes of the electorate.

    Millions of people are fed up with cuts to services whilst tax breaks are granted to the wealthy & corporations. Fed up with dangerous Brexit brinkmanship with Europe. Fed up with cosying up to Donald Trump. Fed up with NHS cuts. Fed up of money trees being planted offshore and fed up with ****ing fox hunting.

    This campaign has been a huge boost to Jeremy Corbyn and his vision for Labour from now on. May clearly felt she would simply crush him, so performed another U-turn in calling the thing (hardly in the spirit of democracy IMO) and proceeded to show how incompetent she is. It's a shame she seems to think her role as PM is to simply appease the editor of the Daily Mail and use alt-right terminology when blaming internet 'safe spaces' as an excuse for her abysmal record on security since being in government - but at least we have seen the start of her terminal decline.

    I for one hope that the young of this country get off their arses and into the rain and make their vote count. Same for the old who stand to be ripped off by the Cons. Turnout is the key, and whether or not people like or dislike the choice on show, you certainly can't say there's no difference between the candidates this time.

    There's been an appetite for anti-establishment voting recently with Brexit and the utter subhuman that is Donald Trump, and it's time to see some good old fashioned righteous leftism prevail for a change. Fingers firmly crossed. 5 more years of May/Boris/Rudd is not appealing, and I frankly don't trust them to keep us safe. We all know the Conservatives are stingy, but you at least expect them to be competent whilst doing it - I don't even think you can say that under May.

    Be brave. Corbyn in. Let's change the course of this country.
     
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  19. The B&S Fanclub

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    The so-called tightening of the polls is bollox.

    Its a Tory plan to ensure they get the vote out....Tories by 70-80 seats.
     
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    Can we mention corbyn, Hamas and hesbullah? He now regrets calling them friends!
     
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