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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. cor blymie

    cor blymie Well-Known Member

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    naive in the extreme to think any Government can stop lone wolf attacks
     
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  2. QPR Oslo

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    Of course it is difficult, but cutting security forces resources does not help. Last night there were reportedly 3 attackers, no lone wolf.
     
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    I thought May's response was spot on. She reflected the anger most of us feel. She said it's time for the kid gloves to come off. She was right!!

    Utter crap Oslo.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Corbyn get slated for speaking so soon after the Manchester bombing and saying our efforts are not working?
     
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  5. QPR Oslo

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    The myth was, yes.
     
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  6. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Col with all due respect mate anyone can say words in anger, words others have been saying for years. I can't see what either a Tory or labour government is going to do. Let's see if her bite is worse than her bark
     
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  7. Stroller

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    She made a political speech on a day when campaigning was supposed to be stopped in respect to the dead and injured. She is right in that something has to change. She has been responsible for security for seven years and this is where we find ourselves. We need to change her.
     
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    The Prime Minister has to make a statement after something like this FFS!!

    I've had it with the **** on here!
     
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  9. Stroller

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    Yes, of course she had to make a statement, but to use the tragedy to make electoral capital was shameful in my opinion. As was Rudd's use of 'we' when referring to the superb police response.
     
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    Of course she does, imagine the **** she'd get if she said nothing.
     
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    Let's not forget what is the alternative to the Tories on terrorism. An account was uncovered by The Times when , in 1986 (when the IRA were still murdering people) John MacDonnell, Corbyn's Shadown Chancellor, was quoted as saying the 'ballot, the bullet and the bomb' would end British rule in Northern Ireland.

    The Times newspaper found a piece on the meeting in the Deptford and Peckham Mercury, which said: 'Mr McDonnell went on to describe the Lewisham Labour councillors who had boycotted the meeting as 'gutless wimps' and joked that knee-capping might help to change their minds.'

    What kind of vile, two-faced piece of **** would say those things?
     
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    Unless she increases her majority she will go. If the Tories win narrowly BoJo will be PM by July. The alternative is Jezza, let's see him negotiate with ISIS...
     
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  13. cor blymie

    cor blymie Well-Known Member

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    very hard to bite the bullet when some our blaming May and not the people who are actually committing these atrocities
     
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    For ****'s sake! On the BBC news just now they had a piece on the reaction of London Muslims to last night's horror. They had a brief interview with a young woman graduate who hopes to practice law in the City. She spoke about how Muslims must integrate better into British society - whilst wearing a full ****ing niqab!
     
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    I saw the bit with one young bloke interviewed in a cafe, saying how sad it is that Muslims get blamed for this, how he now feels unsafe. Join the ****ing club mate.
     
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    Would a hoodie have been more acceptable?
     
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    Come on mate, you can't integrate if people can't see your face, whether it's covered by a niqab or a hoodie.
     
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    That's a strange comment aimed towards a decent fellow QPR poster Matt? Would you please elaborate?
     
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  19. KooPeeArr

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    I personally think you can. On the one hand it doesn't help alleviate barriers with an older generation (preconceived ideas) but it's all about peer acceptance. If someone has a varied group of friends then I'd consider them integrated. Covering your face might make it more difficult but not impossible.

    Losing religious schools and mixing up the demographics in poorer areas seem like the most important long term remedy.
     
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  20. kiwiqpr

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    at least a hoddie nwould have shown shes fully integrated
    something apparently she wants
    whats stopping her taking off the niqab
     
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