Truly awful. Used to live in the Borough as a child and know this area well. I can't conceive how anyone thinks their God would approve of this. Makes me wish for a faith. I would like to think of these people explaining their actions right now.
Wouldn't listen to that shower of ****e to show I'm not cowed. Not that I said I was not in my post anyway.
This isn't about God or religion, I'm pretty sure the rules behind 'suicidal martyrdom' are so specific as to be impossible. They are failures and this is the only thing of note they could think of doing to get their names in the papers, cos that's what it's about, personal glory and global fame. They think they're the jihadi version of pop stars and the media are so stupid/complicit as to play into their hands and provide an insane validation for more. Side note, Uber hiked up their prices during the attack.
I ****ing hate Uber and I hope that they go out of existence, but this isn't entirely fair. Their prices jumped automatically in response to the increased demand and were lowered as soon as they knew what was happening.
Absolutely did not say it was about religion. Just saying I wish I had the faith that I was sure that these people would be punished further than they have been. I have never believed this is about religion and have said so on here.
Thoughts on this post from a local millionaire business man from where I live. ; This is the third Jihad attack 3 months, I use the word Jihad not terrorism because that is what it is, Holy War upon the infidel and the MSM are telling us that there have been five more attacks thwarted by police in that time. Imagine what would have happened in a smaller town that hasn’t got the same resources as London to respond within 8 minutes to this sort despicable act. Surely now the time has come, to stop appeasing the Ideology that has brought so much destruction, to not just London and Manchester but the world as a whole. The pen or the word, they say is mightier than the sword that is unless the word is arrested and nuteralised by The Political Correctness Police, which have become all too powerful in suppressing the truths we need to hear. Why is there so much police time and effort dedicated to silencing those that would speak out against Islamic violence such as Tommy Robinson a Katie Hopkins etc? Why are there so many cover-ups of mass rape of young British girls of non-Islamic faith? It’s time now to end this cancer of political correctness that is allowing our enemies to continue to destroy our community and way of life. Our enemies have declared their intentions untold amounts of time over hundreds of years, they tell us their intentions in their scriptures, their words and their deeds, so why don’t we believe them? We will, no doubt, have Muslim scholars and Imams come on the TV soon saying this is nothing to do with Islam. That’s a lie; anybody who has read and understood the Quran will know this. They tell you that they condemn terrorism, they will do this in all honesty because they don’t see it as terrorism they see it as Jihad, ask them to condemn violent Jihad and you will get an entirely different response. They will probably tell you that these people weren’t practicing Muslims because they drank alcohol and didn’t go to Mosque, the truth is that if a Muslim dies in Jihad, then he/she is granted paradise and his virgins and all his sins are absolved. This information is all within Islamic scriptures and easy to find. To put it bluntly Islam is engaged in Jihad (holy war) against the whole world what’s happening in the Philippines NOW is yet another example of this. Jihad doesn’t just include violent attacks like the ones in Manchester and London, Jihad also comes in the shape of speech, writing and finance and they use our systems to effectively work against us like Joseph Goebles the propaganda minister for Nazi Germany in WW2. They actually openly tell us this is what they are doing yet for some reason we refuse to believe them, is it because it would be racist or Islamophobic to mention it out loud? Ask yourself who invented the word Islamophobia and why is there no Christianophobia, Buddhistophobia or Hinduophobia? Who do you think most benefits from this ridiculous made up word? The real phobia (irrational fear appearing real) is that of Allah, these Jihadists and the people with Allahophobia are the people who are targeting rape and violence at our children and young people for fear of Allah and not getting into heaven to receive their 72 virgins. So lets start no by not allowing anymore Mosque building, stop any foreign funding of Mosques, ban praying in public space (this is a political act not a religious one) ban sharia councils, start to close down any mosques that have been used by Jihadist murderers, Allow in more ex-Muslim speakers such as Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Mosab Hassan Yousef, these have first hand experience of Islam and what the intentions of Islam are. Currently these people are on no fly lists and are banned from the UK whilst we allow in extremist Islamic preachers from all over the world. Basically we need to educate ourselves about our enemy and these ex-Muslim speakers are kept out of our country by powerful Islamic NGOs and appeasing leftwing and Islamic politicians. Why are we so afraid to hear what they have to say? Mosab Hassan Yousef is an ex Muslim who is the son of an Hamas leader. A very interesting guy. I would advise anyone to look up his YOUTUBE videos. Anyway all I say is please speak up, speak out and don’t be afraid of being called Islamophobe, racist or bigot, these are the words that are silencing true and honest debate and because they have been misused for so long have lesser and lesser meaning.
These people are extremists who manipulate and hide behind a religion to justify their aims and actions. To blame the whole of Islam for what these lunatics are doing is so far wide of the mark, that it's ridiculous. This is the holy month of Ramadan for true Muslims. A time of fast and of prayers. That these lunatics would commit such an act at this time shows they have nether faith nor humanity.
Lot of rhetoric and in built hatred there no different to those in the muslim communities that preach hatred. Little understanding of what jihad is even and gives his own meaning to it all. According to him all muslims are his enemies then I guess...
Not only thatnits forbidden to carry out any form of aggression in any case and especially in Ramadan....
That's just so much crap. My wife is Muslim. And last time I checked, she hadn't signed up to any jihad. Locally, nationally or globally. Our neighbours in the village will be sleeping soundly tonight safe in the knowledge that the local muslim isn't waging jihad on their doorstep.
I actually don't disagree with you. What bothers me is that these feelings are there within Muslim communities. Kept under wraps, lots of denial of the problems within it. People are seemingly able to preach this stuff within mosques. I'm fairly certain if I was part of edl I could book a room at my local church to preach this ****. My honest opinion is that the Muslim community turns a blind eye and fails to deal with the issues within it. If it was true that the majority don't agree with these terrorists they don't come out against them. There is always a 'but' and an excuse. Largely due to trying to protect the religion. A bit like a gambling or drug addict who can't and fails to see the error of their own ways. I have Muslim friends. I know they're decent people so I'm no suggesting it's everyone but what I am suggesting is there is or seems to be a lack of grassing up people.
The pc brigade will struggle to agree with that, as to do so would mean they have realised that they are a part of the problem.
I disagree that these feelings are there in the muslim communities and are kept hidden or under wraps and ignored or denied. There are wider issues that people tend to ignore, if this was an issue from Islam surely Britain would have been seeing these problems from the inception of Islam or long before the last couple of decades at most. The suicide bombing or missions didnt arise from the Muslim communities it existed for a very long time before some Muslims started using as way forward. Muslims dont turn a blind eye to it actually and are open there are issues and its not just a Muslim problem, its wider geopolitical issue that Muslim and non-muslims have had a hand in and it requires both sides to get the root issues sorted, to an extent western goverments need to stop funding and creating these groups as well, both sides need to deal with the root cause genuinely, and at the same time I could say the same that west dont seem to learn from mistakes and there is always a "but" and lay the full blame at the muslims/islams door step rather than look at it objectively. How do you want the Muslims to come out? its like saying everytime something bad is done by western goverments in other parts of the world do you come out? just like those have nothing to do with you as a person nor do these have anything to do with other Muslims, everyone should condemn a wrong action regardless whether it's done to a Muslims or non-muslims. The preaching from the millionaire is just as bad, thats spouting hatred the same way.
