They really stepped up in the second half. Juve don't have to deal with that in Serie A. Modric and Ronaldo were fantastic for their third goal. Their defence was strong up to the final and it got them past some good teams including Barcelona, but Real's quality was too much.
I will reserve judgement until I see a camera angle that shows what happened at foot level. Like I said, blow on Ramos and he will go down holding the bit you blew on but I would like to see if he was actually kicked before condemning him.
Nasty piece of vermin that is Ramos. ITV highlights got a view where see that Juve player get him with a kick, but nowhere near the force and violence that had Ramos doing the cheating pole-axe roll.
Dumbest Gooner blog headline I read today... Callum Chambers can overcome "new Eric Dier" stigma Since when was being compared to a player who is clearly much better than you considered a mark of disgrace associated with a particular circumstance, quality, or person? If anything, Dier being compared with Callum Chambers would be considered a stigma - and possibly grounds for a lawsuit.
To be fair Ramos has been sent off or cautioned a lot of times by players doing exactly the same when has barely touched them.
He's also got away with murder a bunch of times. The fact that he plays for Real Madrid and has been sent off 22 times is bloody ludicrous. He's been playing for them since 2005 and I think we've had about 28 in that time in the league. That said, I think that he's getting heavily criticised for being dramatic last night. Cuadrado deserves at least as much criticism, as leaving his foot in was bloody stupid. There was plenty of actual diving going on during the game too, which all seems to have been ignored.
Victor Moses and Willian were appointed special advisers on diving to Juve and Los Ladrones respectively
I said at the time that the chronic play-acting that blights the CL seemed to throw us completely off course. Other than Alli, we don't really have players who 'look' for free kicks at every available opportunity. Coming up against entire teams doing it knocked us for six. I was especially surprised to see Bayer adopt this sub-culture of high drama, as the Bundesliga is doesn't have such a reputation for it. I personally feel that many teams read from a different script when they're in the CL. Perhaps they know that it's the only way they'll get close to the Spanish and Italians? We are naturally a very physical side. The relative rough n' tumble of the PL (especially in the 'let it go' era) suits us. European football does not. The closest to us in terms of organisation and intensity are probably Atletico. But they are truly masters of the dark arts, defenders getting away with murder and Griezmann & Torres flopping around like bambi on ice. There is no chance the likes of Dembele, Wanyama, Dier, Rose, Walker etc. are going to turn into Ashley Young any time soon. So it seems that next season our focus must be how to prevent the endless stream of niggling fouls and free kicks from disrupting our flow and causing us to lose focus. If we fail to master this level of discipline, I fear that our CL adventure will once again involve a lot of huffing and puffing, only for the 3 pigs to open a side window and stick a middle finger out.
We criticise the officials in the Premier League and rightly so at times, but some of the diving in Europe is truly laughable. Players going to ground for no apparent reason is common, but diving into opposition players is regularly rewarded. Dybala did it frequently yesterday, despite already being on a yellow.
Maybe then meant it was putting a lot of pressure on the lad saying he could be as good as Dier. Just a thought.
It's actually because Tony Adams told Wenger to sign Dier, but Arsenal's scouts said that he was too one-paced. The thought that £5m was too much for him, so they spent £17m on Chambers, instead. https://paininthearsenal.com/2017/06/04/arsenal-joel-campbell-is-victor-moses/ Stigma seems the wrong word, to me.
We also thought £5m was too much for Dier - so signed him for £4m...which is still a quarter of what the Goons paid for Chambers. A better use of the word stigma would he a headline such as... Rob Holding can overcome "new Callum Chambers" stigma ...but that would involve Goons looking inwards rather than looking in our direction, and that's something they have a hard time doing. Isn't that right, cini65?
Not long enough in his case! Just reminds me how relatively injury-free their whole season was. The pundits raved about the "quality of their squad" but how often did they have to go without one of their megastars for an extended period? That was probably just as responsible for them winning the title as anything else!
