1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

O'Shea wants to stay!

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Brian Storm, Jun 3, 2017.

  1. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/g00/...3133033?i10c.referrer=https://t.co/zPsFZaiggt

    John O'Shea hoping to stay at Sunderland, but has four offers elsewhere, including Wolves
    John O'Shea is out of contract at Sunderland but hoping the manager a new manager will ask him to stay as he hopes for World Cup dream


    BYCRAIG JOHNS
    • 15:00, 3 JUN 2017
    • UPDATED15:01, 3 JUN 2017
    SPORT


    please log in to view this image

    Sunderland's John O'Shea (Photo: PA)
    Get Sunderland AFC updates directly to your inbox
    + Subscribe
    John O’Shea is hoping to end his career at Sunderland, but may have to leave this summer to fulfil his desire of playing at a World Cup.

    And the 36-year-old, out of contract at Sunderland this summer, has offers from four clubs - one of which is Wolves.

    p:nth-of-type(2)","sizes":[[8,8]],"hideOnSensitiveArticle":true,"relativePos":"after","additionalClass":"in-article","name":"div-gpt-ad-vip-slot","type":"VIP"}" data-response-start="26555.000000000004" data-type="gpt" data-google-query-id="CJKVyYL5odQCFS-g7Qod0vwNsA" data-timer-slot-rendered="32157.995" data-rendered-width="8" data-rendered-height="8" data-response-end="57949.00000000001" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin-bottom: 24px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; overflow: hidden; z-index: 1; height: 8px; max-height: 8px;">
    The Ireland international is likely to play just one more season before hanging up his boots, as he hopes to be on the plane for Russia, should Ireland qualify for the 2018 World Cup. Despite a storied career, O’Shea is yet to play at football’s grandest stage.

    With Sunderland yet to appoint a new manager following David Moyes’ resignation, O’Shea’s future - as well as the six others whose deals expire - is still uncertain.

    Sunderland's new manager has some key issues to resolve - here's what could be in his inbox
    According to a report in the Irish Times, a source close to O’Shea has told them he hopes to remain at the Stadium of Light, but needs guarantees from whoever takes the hotseat on Wearside.

    The report quotes a source close to O’Shea as saying: “John, ideally, wants to remain with Sunderland but only if he’s going to play.

    “If their new manager is not overly keen on John, then he has to leave, because his Irish place is dependent on him being active at club level. John has never been to a World Cup - he has played Champions League finals, FA Cup finals, captained Sunderland in the League Cup final and been to the Euros. But he wants to go to a World Cup.

    “He knows he may not get there if he’s sitting on a bench for the last year of his career. Four clubs are interested in him [all in the Championship]. Wolves are one of those.”

    Whether O’Shea has a future at Sunderland remains to be seen.

    However, the club’s finances are poor and they look likely to lose Lamine Kone and Papy Djilobodji in the transfer window, while Jason Denayer’s loan deal ended.

    Five Sunderland youngsters who could benefit from regular football in the Championship
    That would leave O’Shea as the only senior centre-back in the squad.

    ol>li:nth-of-type(2)","sizes":[[300,250],[300,254],[9,4]],"hideOnSensitiveArticle":true,"relativePos":"after","additionalClass":"in-article","name":"div-gpt-ad-in-article-slot","referenceNode2":".article-body > p:nth-last-of-type(4)","type":"inArticleMPU6","relativePos2":"after"}" data-response-start="26556" data-type="gpt" data-google-query-id="CJOVyYL5odQCFS-g7Qod0vwNsA" data-timer-slot-rendered="32648.995" data-rendered-width="300" data-rendered-height="250" style="background: transparent; border: 0px; margin-bottom: 24px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; overflow: hidden; z-index: 1; height: 250px; max-height: 250px;">
    With that in mind, a deal to keep the Irishman probably makes sense.

    O’Shea is believed to be a major dressing room leader at the Stadium of Light and given he’s already started taking his coaching badges, a role as a player coach might suit both parties, offering the 36-year-old his way into coaching too.

    With five games remaining, Ireland are joint-top of qualifying group D with Serbia, each on 11 points. That’s four ahead of Wales and Austria in joint-third.


    Don't doubt that he's good enough at this level, but he'll still be too slow, he'll still switch off and he'll still be a **** captain. He'll sitll cost us goals cause where he's weak he's finished. I hope we let him go personally.
     
    #1
    Deleted likes this.
  2. Deleted #

    Deleted # Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    20,571
    Likes Received:
    9,877
    Agreed Bri,

    We should now be in transition and building a squad of players that can stick together and have a few years together. O'Shea will hold that progression back by a season in a vital position.

    Thanks for the service, John, but cheerio.
     
    #2
    Nacho and Brian Storm like this.
  3. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    18,446
    Likes Received:
    29,986
    Dressing room leader? Leading them into what?

    He's been ok for us but I feel it's time for him to move on. We need big, strong and mobile CBs ideally with selling on potential and he's none of that.
     
    #3
    Brian Storm likes this.
  4. Sunderlad

    Sunderlad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,837
    Likes Received:
    2,133
    I think we need to keep hold of him at least for one year.
     
    #4
    Makemstine Roger likes this.
  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    64,983
    Likes Received:
    150,932
    I'd normally agree, and actually like him, but I feel it's time to clear everyone out and rebuild a club, team and spirit.

    I'm borderline with O'Shea but not convinced.

    If he definitely wants to commit then he could be a good player in this division.
     
    #5
    Makemstine Roger likes this.
  6. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    69,146
    Likes Received:
    147,485
    if he is on 40% less, give him a year, every back we have had plays better with him than without
     
    #6
    polyphemus and Billy Death like this.
  7. Jack TheLad

    Jack TheLad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    4,453
    Likes Received:
    2,952
    Time to move on for me.

    He's Been out of his depth for a few seasons now, not really his fault he's been thrown in time and time again.
     
    #7
    RTB likes this.
  8. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    My worry about this 40% cut is it still makes most of them on way way more than the championship average. Fortunately O'Shea is out of contract so he'll be offered even less than 40% if we offer him a new contract.
     
    #8
    Makemstine Roger likes this.
  9. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    16,053
    Likes Received:
    11,920
    I've been wanting him to retire for three or four years. Horrendously slow and accident prone.
     
    #9
  10. Burly Hurley

    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2016
    Messages:
    7,337
    Likes Received:
    6,927
    Overstated his welcome by 2 or 3 seasons.

    If he's getting other offers no one should be standing in his way.
     
    #10
    Gil T Azell likes this.

  11. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2012
    Messages:
    7,845
    Likes Received:
    709
    Top culprit in the decanio senario was he not, football wise too slow as well turns like a supertanker
     
    #11
  12. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    4,266
    Likes Received:
    4,281
    Byeeeeee

    Bart
     
    #12
  13. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    10,350
    Likes Received:
    32,192
    Am I reading this right, he,wants to stay to enhance his World Cup dream and not
    He wants to stay to enhance Sunderland's chances of getting back up in one go.
    If its all about sentence one then bye bye John and thanks for your efforts.
    If its sentence two then bye bye John cos your times up.
     
    #13
    Makemstine Roger and Deleted like this.
  14. monty987

    monty987 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    8,506
    Likes Received:
    3,738
    We need a young defence rebuild, but thanks John for your service mate.
     
    #14
  15. Nostalgic

    Nostalgic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2012
    Messages:
    5,463
    Likes Received:
    1,678
    There is no substitute for experience and he has this by the barrow load at all level. Two more years to help bring on the lesser experienced suits me. He has as much as Kone, whose attitude is the problem, which is not the case here. Given the choice I would let Kone go first.
     
    #15
    Makemstine Roger likes this.
  16. Nacho

    Nacho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    18,446
    Likes Received:
    29,986
    Let O'Shea go and sell Kone is what I'd do, we've missed the big payday but he should get us enough to buy someone more suited, maybe two or three.
     
    #16
    Brian Storm and Makemstine Roger like this.
  17. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    Kone will be going anyway. O'Shea is out of contract. Lets get shot while we can imo. He's just too slow for any league.
     
    #17
  18. polyphemus

    polyphemus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Messages:
    1,865
    Likes Received:
    3,732
    I think it's been more of a case that he has been surrounded by players who have been out of their depth and he has been unable to cover for all of them, all of the time.
    In general though the back line has been better with him than without him.

    My concerns are more about this constant thing about there being something seriously wrong within the Club.
    If the problem is 'the players', then this is a great opportunity for a root and branch clear out and that would inevitably include the Club Captain.
     
    #18
    password invalid likes this.
  19. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,737
    Likes Received:
    27,775
    Aye you've done real well there mate f uck ff you slug.
     
    #19
    salad fingers likes this.
  20. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    upload_2017-6-4_11-1-26.jpeg
     
    #20

Share This Page