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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    The point is that you never let international relations get so bad that the question ever arises. As Churchill, hardly a peacemonger, famously said: better "jaw jaw" than "war war".
     
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    They aren't really a deterrent anyways.
     
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    Indeed. As I said, nobody wants to use nuclear weapons (well, maybe a few crackpots in North Korea do, but even then I doubt it). Nobody wants international relations to get so bad that the question ever arises. I'd say that's a slightly separate issue.

    That's a perfectly valid opinion and I'm sure Corbyn would probably prefer to stand on a platform of unilateral disarmament. I don't have a strong opinion on nuclear weapons and can understand those who think they're a waste of money. I'm not sure I totally agree but I get the point. However, Labour's policy is to have the weapons but the leader apparently isn't prepared to use them. That's an odd inconsistency and unquestionably DOES make them a waste of money.
     
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  4. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    Nobody asked May about nuclear weapons
     
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  5. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    If I was King I would spend the cash on a fail proof system to shoot them down before they got anywhere near us
     
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  6. Puck

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    Not tonight but she's been asked before and given the standard "Nobody wants to use them but I would be prepared to if necessary." answer.
     
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  7. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    here's a thought, this week the super powers of the world are dismayed that CO2 emissions may destroy the human race in 100 years, but still spend more money on a weapon system that could do it in 10 minutes?
     
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    I think a lot of young first time voters are going to be motivated to go out to the ballot box this time and that the election is impossible to call at this point.
     
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    Yes, very profound and a good one. If only it had been an original thought. <whistle> ;)
     
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    It's a BS ploy to create jobs and pretend that it really matters. A prestige thing. All the big boys have them so we must.

    The reality is if someone lets one off then everybody is dead. Doesn;t matter that we have one. IF NK manages to develop missiles to hit us are we going to retaliate and kill innocent South Koreans, Japanese etc? I doubt it.

    Everybody in the world knows that no-one will ever sign their own death warrant (other than some maddos that think it gets them to their heaven.)

    The episode of "Yes Prime Minister" where Jim Hacker decides to scrap Trident is a very good one. The Army chap loves the suggestion. Says it's the navy that are in favour because they're the ones that will carry them.
     
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    For those who can't be bothered to vote 'cause they're all the same'.

     
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    Must admit, I sort of get the idea of nuclear weapons as a deterrent, what I have never been able to understand though, is how many do you need! How many times do you need to kill everyone ( and all other life on this planet) ?
     
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    The question about nuclear weapons, and the unwillingness of some to stop talking about it, was the only area where I think Corbyn suffered.
    The Tories and their pet media will have their sound bites from that part.
    As has already been said, if we are in a situation where we need to retaliate, then we are already dead anyway.
    And if it is about electing someone who will be prepared to first use NWs, then I wouldn't be voting for anyone.
     
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    Other pics of him at some rich looking school and out shooting pheasant.

    I hate ****s like this
     
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    please log in to view this image
     
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    The thing about nuclear weapons is that no one seems to understand the whole irony about them. For starters, no one is even going to use them and therefore it seems absolutely stupid to squander money on something that is never going to be used. In these days of "low-tech" terrorism, there are plenty of other ways for nutters to kill people.

    The elephant in the room is obviously the fact that each political party is trying to maximise it's "green credentials" and it seems ridiculous for a political party to say one moment that we should limited our carbon footprint and limit harmful omissions whilst saying on the other hand that we would be prepared to use nuclear weapons. I suppose at least Trump is consistent in wanting to have both options available with which to destroy the planet .
     
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    Trump is unique among politicians, in that he makes no effort to hide the fact that his philosophy is based on contempt for others. The rest of them try to hide that.

    Jeremy Corbyn is similarly unique in that his philosophy appears to be genuinely based on concern for others.
     
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