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Tammy ****in Abraham

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by RobEllious, May 25, 2017.

  1. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Just hope we have a buy him clause!
     
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  2. magpie290761

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    Probably won't but then originally Everton didn't for Lukaku but he did well and they still eventually got him outright. Chelsea will always have lots of top competition for places so no matter how well he does we will still have a chance of signing him full time. Also by next summer we will be in a better financial position to sign either him outright or a replacement
     
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  3. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I would love for this to happen and it looks like it might. He'd be a terrific addition. No reason him AND Armstrong can't provide competition. A bit of youthful exuberance, energy and pace won't do any harm at all.

    I like this bit though...

    "Benitez even travelled to England's training HQ St George’s Park on his wedding anniversary last week to convince Abraham that St James’ Park was right for him."

    Yes I know this kind of thing happened even under Pardew, but it is still nice to know we're doing all we can to make things happen. If he joins Brighton or whoever then fair enough. As above too, Lukaku is a prime example of how things can work out. These top clubs don't care and the players know it. Raw talent cannot be risked. So unless you are Dybala or Messi etc then you are not guaranteed anything!
     
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  4. Rum & Black for 2

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    Well, I've heard Obi is messy but I'm not sure what that guarantees him except perhaps a bigger cleaning bill than the rest of us!!
     
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  5. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    Loan with a view to permanent at the end of the season I am hearing. Somewhere in the region of £12 million.
     
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  6. Charlie Dogscock

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    Would snap their freakin hands off for that, this boy is destined for good things.
     
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  7. Warmir Pouchov

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    I'd be very surprised if that is the case. Why would they risk it? Surely his value after a good season would rocket. Even an average season would still see him command more than 12m. Would seem a bizarre move on their part.

    You never know though, look what just happened with Solanke. Perhaps Chelsea can't control that loan situation fully and have so many they don't need to. Lets go back for Zouma or Christensen <laugh>
     
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  8. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Perhaps his contract runs out in 2019 so they are looking to secure a fee the season before it ends??
     
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    If that's the case then that would be an excellent deal but can't see Chelski letting him go for that amount.
     
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  10. Charlie Dogscock

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    From nufc.com:

    "It's claimed that the loan deal could be announced over the coming days, with Abraham anticipated to sign an extension to his current Chelsea deal first."

    yeah, loan to buy seeming unlikely.
     
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  11. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    If I remember right, Lukaku did the same. It will increase his value.
     
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  12. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    This would be the most likely outcome for me. That way the fee, if there were to be one, would be decided by performance.
     
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  13. Charlie Dogscock

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    They're gonna learn from Lukaku - letting him go for £30m then wanting to buy him back for £100m, if Abraham smashes it next season there's no way they'd let him go for anything other than silly money.
     
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  14. GeordieHalfbreed

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    There are three possible outcomes:

    He smashes it next season, keeping us up in the process. We can't buy him, but we had one of the top league strikers on the cheap in our debut season back in the Prem. Keeping us up is worth silly money in itself.

    He does a job this season, keeps us up, we buy him up for a reasonable price, then he smashes it next season. Bargain.

    He's crap. We haven't wasted transfer money on a crap player and we're not obliged to play him.

    Who said Toon fans couldn't be optimists? :1980_boogie_down:
     
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  15. Judge Death

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    Exactly - what this will allow us to do is concentrate funds in other areas and offset the cost of a new striker until at least year.
     
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  16. GeordieHalfbreed

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    I'll add another option:

    He does a job this season, keeps us up, we buy him up for a reasonable price, then he's crap the following season.

    Rafa spots this early and stops playing him. We sell him for silly money to Liverpool or Spurs in January 2019.
     
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  17. G4rdToonArmy

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    Has to be worth a punt for a season on loan, does mean Arma will be back out on loan, hopefully to a half decent championship team who will give him a platform.

    Think it works all round as Arma is not ready for the EPL but this boy clearly is and i'd rather Arma was out playing games instead of being sat behind a few others here.

    Don't think we will get him on a permanent deal at the end of the year though, he'll be back to Chelsea next season so they can have a proper look at him over next season.
     
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  18. Lord Jonjomort

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    The thing is there are very few players in the World who will get a "guaranteed" starting place at the likes of Chelsea. It then becomes about Abraham saying he fancies his chances up agains Costa, Batshuayi, Lukaku, etc., or whether he thinks he'd be better off a first team star elsewhere. The other thing to remember is we will ALWAYS be smaller than the top clubs and every player we own will not stay once they get to a really high level. Shearer the exception, not the rule. What players like Abraham have to remember is they need to fulfil potential first, then move. Too often they believe their own hype, then move...into oblivion.
     
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  19. Albert's Chip Shop

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    If true I'll buy you 5 pints :)
     
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  20. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

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    He's talking to Brighton now apparently. I'm tempted to say "**** him, let him go there" but he's citing he'd have more chance of playing time there. Fair enough, I suppose.
     
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