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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Albert's Chip Shop, May 23, 2017.

  1. It's_all_Greek_to_me

    It's_all_Greek_to_me Well-Known Member

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    Mine stretches to Ireland, Yemen and Saudi Arabia as far as I am aware
     
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  2. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    Mine stretches to Sunderland ffs <laugh><grr>
     
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  3. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    One of my customers is gutted in that he did a DNA test to check his family tree, and he thought his slight swarthiness was down to him being part (tiny, actually) Italian....

    ...wrong. Partly Turkish...he's gutted he's not the Casanova he thought he was <laugh>

    Sorry any Turks out there :undecided:
     
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  4. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    I get called a terrorist cos I change skin colour rapidly in summer and my old passport photo was a classic middle eastern looking/ brown t-shirt job with the cold stare.
     
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  5. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    <laugh>
    I tan easily in the sun, though I just look even more gorgeous and French-looking <even if I say so myself> :grin:
     
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  6. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    As an aide, has anyone seen Trump muscling his way to the front for that photo?

    Get oot the way matey! <bump>
     
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  7. Albert's Chip Shop

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    <laugh>

    Elk herder!
     
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  9. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    With regards the SAS death squads don't think for a minute it doesn't happen from time to time anyway. I just think they should be given more scope and imminity from prosecution. The rules of engagement are changing and anyone actively trying to blow our kids to bits relinquishes their human rights.

    These scum want infamy and martyrdom. To dispose of them silently is the most efficient way to neutralise their threat.
     
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  10. Albert's Chip Shop

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    It explains my attraction to cans.
     
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  11. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    The SAS should have arrest powers similar to the Police to deal with these extremists. They of course should be accountable to the law, but we are effectively 'at war' with extremism and the military should as a result be allowed to follow up investigations. Just my view of course.
     
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  12. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I guess people would use London and Leicester as an example of that. White British people in these areas make up less than half the population. It depends what you want really and why you want it. I know many people who I would not deem as racist who believe that we should never be in a minority in any area of this country. Some like to go back hundreds and thousands of years to look at mass migration through history. But as BRS noted earlier you are not comparing apples with apples using that argument. You can't ignore what was the status quo up until 1950. The world wars resulted in a need on our part for immigration - it just wasn't done in a controlled way and has spiralled out of control. No longer are people coming here just because we need them. The people asking for a tightening are deemed racist and have it thrown in their face about the NHS etc. That is all well and good but the problem is they don't tend to mean controlling those we need. They want the rest prevented first and foremost. And those needed have to understand that on coming here there are rules that they and their religious beliefs must abide by. They should be routinely quizzed on those basic human rights etc I mentioned earlier. Both on arrival and thereafter. Contravening those things should result in immediate deportation. Those same people want a long term reinvestment in the current people residing here also to meet some of the demand. Unfortunately I do think we have broken our country's and I'm not sure how we get back?
     
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    Let me get this straight. To eliminate a one in 10 million chance of being killed by a terrorist (not made up, those are the stats since the beginning of the millennium) you would give the government the right to kill you without explanation if it wanted to ?

    You trust the tories a lot more than I do.
     
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  14. GeordieHalfbreed

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    4.8% of England and Wales. [http://www.mcb.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/MCB-Muslims-in-Numbers-infographic-final.jpg]
    4.4% of UK as a whole [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom]


    The problem - as others have stated on this thread - is that they're not evenly distributed.

    I really sympathise with people who have seen their local area's culture completely changed in a short period of time.

    I also get annoyed with the middle class liberals who promote immigration but buy expensive houses in all-white areas.

    Integration & controlled immigration are the key to preserving culture in a positive way.

    Hence why I'm so concerned about people's understandable and heartfelt reaction to this attack damaging chances of integration. Not least because that is one of the primary purposes of such an attack.
     
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  15. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    Integration needs to be the focus. Control the numbers coming in from this day forward and help those already here to integrate. That brings with it, tolerance, understanding and creates a true community and society. Know thy neighbour and get to know them.
     
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  16. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Hate the tories....but trust the regiment.

    There needs to be proof of course. Such as an isis cell caught in the act of preparing a bombing. At that point we spend millions prosecuting and giving them the platform to spout their hate and become martyrs to their twisted cause... or let SAS flick the safety off on their Glocks and put two bullets in their temple after torturing them for intel.

    Its a merciful killing for filthy dogs who don't deserve it and certainly don't give the same consideration to the innocent kids they seek to blow to pieces.
     
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    If we're going to win a war of ideology then we have to win clean. We don't murder. We don't torture.

    Not only *can* we win by sticking to our values, it's the *only* way we can win.
     
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    This.

    Together with the inherent contradiction in allowing the SAS to kill with immunity but saying they will need to have proof first. If you want to have death squads, have death squads. If you want a system that requires evidence before it does something harmful to its citizens (this means you), that's what we have got. If you want to have death squads that operate in accordance with the rule of law, they're on the shelf right next to the square circles.
     
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    Speaking of which what do we do with nob jockeys like this one. Not sure if i should feel bad because he has "autism" or whether i think he's got off lightly cause he'll probably be out in 5 and be even more angry than he is.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40059351
     
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