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I wanted to make sure you knew what the verse was in relation to, .you don't


What did you think I was asking you to clarify?

Have a kit kat mate

 

Okay, common sense would suggest that a god that created us, firstly, wouldn't need to write an instruction manual, but if they for some reason did, they shouldn't need to have several goes, but if for some reason they did, they should be able to write one that doesn't involve scholars arguing over what it means, and others interpreting it in different ways for their own ends.

 

You're not even in the same country as the building the stairs are in.

 

Hang on what was that you said about science a bit ago?

 

Nah, you wanted to avoid addressing the actual point, by being dishonest.

 

Oh good one

Are you going yo exchange insults or get to the nitty gritty?

 

I am prepared to go through it word by word bring it lad

But answer the dhul qurnayn question

 

Because somebody made it up. I've seen these claims before and they're utterly nonsensical.
Things that are statistically unlikely happen all of the time, for a start.
How statistically likely is it that Islam is the correct religion? Time to stop believing, eh?

 

It's an accepted position, but like most science, you're free to challenge it and show the flaws, and suggest areas for further research. That's how it works. I doubt 'god did it' will get you far, but post a link to the science site you're on when you do it.

 

Give it a week.

 

You're back to where it started. Have a look back up there, the line is there. There are other vague ones to follow after it too, but the point isn't what it really means, the point is that, as it is written, the word of god isn't accurate, and needs clarification. That seems like a failing on the part of an omnipotent being. A divinity, that created us, would know how to word it clearly, in a way that didn't leave room for doubt, or a need for explanations.

 

God knows.

 

Maybe only the chosen interpret it correctly or some bollocks.

 

And here we go as if to prove my point. People make things up? Why because it suits an argument?

Science only falls on the can't prove a negative and random chance when something doesn't fit. I have first hand experience of this with one of my own kids

 

That seems to fit the available data.

 

So clarify of that's the story of dhul qurnayn? Do you even know it?

Its a simple question

 

A creator is also an accepted position

Arguably all the other stuff was a way to disprove a creator and failed

Science has failed son pick up a religious book

 

The can't prove a negative, is logical argument rather than general science. Science tends to work on six steps. Observe, form a question, form a hypothesis, conduct an experiment, analyse data, and draw a conclusion.

There's a debate to be had on science being the right tool to examine the existence of god, but I would say it'd be a reasonable approach to determine if the koran is infallible.

 

It is a simple question, not a particularly relevant one, but then yours don;t tend to be. You seem to prefer a separate argument to the one being had.

Humouring you, here's a simple question, does the sun always set in the same murky pool? yes or no?

 

Of course it failed, the almighty's word is as clear as the water the sun sets in.