You are so funny...i could have told you that, don't need intellect to realise no Santa. All that education wasted on you! btw I am not Christian so that argument don't work with me either... You made the claim so the onus is on you yo prove otherwise! Don't try and use the argument absence of evidence as evidence of absence or god of the gaps argument, those are new age thinking and has refuted already by many people! Go on am waiting.......
I made the claim about Santa, you accept he's not real. You are making the claim about a God...your shout. In your own time.
I'm reluctant to call it that in the same way that I wouldn't want to call anything that Erdogan's done Islamic. I don't think that either description's particularly helpful and both actions can be criticised without it. That criticism is probably going to be better received without the baggage, too.
What I find interesting about the whole 'Islamic extremism' thing is that Wahhabism, the ideology motivating Muslims who join various terrorist groups, was widely unpopular in the Muslim world prior to the creation of Saudi Arabia. Britain helped give the tribal warlord Abdulaziz Ibn Saud a crown back in the 1932 in exchange for access to cheap oil in the Arabian peninsula and since then the money poured into Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf States has been used to spread Wahhabi doctrine through mosques all across the world. Prior to that, the schools of Sunni Islam practiced under the Ottoman Empire were relatively liberal compared to the ultra-conservative interpretations peddled by the Saudis, and violent jihadi acts in the sense of killing innocents to 'spread the faith' was practically unheard of prior to the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Suicide attacks are a very recent thing in Islamic history, and the practices of groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda were dead in the water since the defeat of the kharijites in the 7th century until recent times. Add to the fact the Americans funded the mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight against Soviet occupation. Whichever way you look at it, these extremists wouldn't have an intricate network of terror cells all across the world had the West not propped up the monarchies of Arabia that spread this ideology. The first Islamic terror attack was in the 1970s. It's a modern thing that the West has facilitated.
It was, I mentioned it earlier, however, if you want to change it, I can humour you with that too. Which ever bit of the religious argument is looked at, from who interprets the bool properly, to the credibility of the book itself, your argument requires there to be a god. So I'd argue that is the root of your claim(s) and if you can't prove that existence, the rest of your position becomes irrelevant. So, your shout...
again? You're funny. I answered btw, your timer will be the same 10 minute length as you just demanded. So far, your god seems less than willing.
Nope, you mentioned Santa afterwards! You made the claim so the onus is on you to prove otherwise! back tracking now?
That they have an intricate network o terror cells is a debatable, I've yet to see or hear any evidence to prove that they're anything much more than isolated groups and lone nutters, most of the attacks are almost laughably amateur. agree with what you're saying about the role of the West in creating it all and helping spread wahabism though, led by the Christian right. Both want the rapture.
Proves my point, you haven't got the balls to stand up with conviction for your claims...and it's there for all to see!
You're going to have to clarify what you're trying to argue. Right now, I'm saying that your argument is based on the existence of god. The ball is firmly in your court to prove your claim. So far, you're lacking the balls to serve back, and that (along with a fair few of your other flaws) is there for all to see. Still ticking.
To me, the Wahhabi mosques across Europe funded by the House of Saud are the network of terror cells. They indoctrinate young Muslims into thinking that by attacking the West (the Dar al-Harb or 'house of war') from the inside via jihad, they'll go to Paradise but they're just foot soldiers for clerics and princes of the Gulf States. I think there was a Wikileaks evidence dossier that proved that the Saudi and Qatari royal families haven't just been funding Wahhabi mosques in Europe, they've been funding ISIS directly in Syria, Iraq and Libya, and the Americans knew about it.
I'm claiming that you cannot prove the existence of your god, which is the basis of much of your argument. Your god seems less than willing to help you so far, which doesn't really help your assertion that he exists, so I'm guessing you've given up and accept your lack of proof. So what exactly are you trying to argue now?
