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Explosion in Manchester

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, May 22, 2017.

  1. Highburyal

    Highburyal Cun.t Chops

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    Bullshit...you did label me an apologist and try to shut me that way, because I don't see it your way and throw a faux outrage!
     
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  2. NSIS

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    Anyway, I'm outta here. Because we're going around in circles.

    If you agree with my basic views, fine. If not, we'll agree to disagree.

    These are my views and they won't change unless something compelling changes them ( it hasn't happened so far)
     
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  3. NSIS

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    I've also said that if sound like an apologist....!!

    That's all.
     
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  4. PINKIE

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    ISIS are ****ed in the head. Their warped view of the world needs to be stamped out, they are using a strand of Islam to justify their hate for anybody who doesn't agree with their bloody and barbaric world view. As I've said, I do not think that there is any reasoning with that kind of mentality and it needs to be wiped out.

    But, the point that you are missing, is how and why some people get brainwashed into accepting that world view. Yes there are some Muslim Clerics who spread that view, and they need to be held to account for inciting race hate in the same way that a right wing white supremacist is. But if we're ever going to properly address the issues that make young men turn to a radical and violent solution (not just muslim extremists) then we have to engage much better in addressing the underlying issues that allow these views gain traction in the first place.
     
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    That's a piss poor excuse. You can't label somebody as a terrorist apologist, because you haven't understood the wider context that they have been trying to open your eyes to. Along with your statement that Israel's persecution of Palestinians and illegal occupation of their land is a 'Bullshit conspiracy theory', you have come across as being pretty narrow minded in this debate.
     
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    Bollocks! Is my best response.

    I've never said anything about Israeli occupation of the territories apart from they should get out.
    The bullshit comment was aimed at a so called global Zionist plot.

    Anyway, I've had enough of this ****. You see it your way? Etc....
     
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  7. PINKIE

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    The illegal occupation of Palestine is EXACTLY a Zionist agenda.
     
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  8. Highburyal

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    That's what I find quite be bemusing why people are reluctant to call that what it is and condemn that, which has been happening for decades and one of the reasons behind these grooming and recruitment......instead just simply blame Islam..
     
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  9. DMD

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    If the senior leaders were honest, they should point out that they're just perpetuating a regime based on a version of a man made fairy story.
     
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    The fact the the West was not only instrumental in carving up Palestine after WW2 and creating the state of Israel, but has continued to fund Israeli aggression and continued land grab in Palestine, is exactly the reason that has given rise to organisations like Hamas and even more extreme radical groups.
     
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  11. Highburyal

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    you really want to go down that route you Muppet!
     
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  12. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Election comes up, corporate favourite drops in polls, bomb goes off, 3-6 are arrested, authorities confirm bomber was 'known' to them.

    seems a bit like de ja vu
     
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  13. DMD

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    I don't mind either way. I'm practiced having had to break the news about Santa to kids.
     
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  14. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    That he was a nordic drug dealer?
     
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  15. Highburyal

    Highburyal Cun.t Chops

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    you get wiped every time yet you come back for more!
     
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  16. DMD

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    You have a strange view of reality.
     
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  17. Highburyal

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    some people are beyond comprehension and understanding of wider issues....
     
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  18. DMD

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    I kept quiet on bits of it rather than explain some of my packages.
     
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    Ok, you made a claim so now prove it...
     
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  20. DMD

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    Okay, next Christmas, don't go shopping, and see if Santa brings anything for your kids.

    Now you prove your God exists. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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