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Explosion in Manchester

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  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    It's not just young Muslim men, but young men in general and youngsters as a whole.
    If you make them feel like they're outside of society, then they'll feel like they are and they'll act like they are.
    Treat them as a burden, lumber them with unrealistic expectations, a ton of problems and a pile of debt and they'll rebel.

    British and American society has abandoned it's youth to appeal to an older, richer age group.
    The Baby Boomer generation has taken a large **** all over the place and now blames everyone else for the mess.
    It's still refusing to contribute to the clean-up and is surprised when people reject the plan that it's put forward.

    You can't treat people like crap and expect them to like it.
    Others will exploit that understandable anger and frustration for their own ends.
    If you make reasonable change and action impossible, then the unreasonable becomes the only choice.
    Rigging the system results in rejection of the system.
     
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    My post was abiut something different but I would be interested to know what you see as an apologist
     
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    No as big as the pile that comes out from you!..


    Here's the list of countries - all non Muslim - that have sufferered islamic extremist attacks just in the last 3 yrs,...

    UK
    France
    Belgium
    Italy
    Sweden
    Denmark
    Bosnia Herzegovina
    Russia
    China
    Australia
    Canada
    India

    Perhaps you can give me a list of all the countries that these Buddhist terrorists have launched attacks in?...
     
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  5. Highburyal

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    According to statistics, there are approximately 5000 people to convert to Islam in the UK every year, if I remember rightly over 70% highly educated and majority are women...

    This is probably similar in Christianity, although they might not be practicing but still have the belief in God.
     
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    Highburyal Cun.t Chops

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    Like I said you definition of terrorism is skewed to suit your view/agenda!
     
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    I have no agenda apart from trying to stop this senseless slaughter.
     
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    Highburyal Cun.t Chops

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    Slaughter of the ones you deem to be important...

    Faux outrage mate...
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

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    How many leave?
     
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    Bullshit!

    You're an apologist in very thin disguise!...
     
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  11. DMD

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    DID HE ****. <doh>


    When you lie like that, it shows the weakness of your argument.
     
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  12. DMD

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    So you expect us all to learn an archaic version of Arabic then.
     
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    Converts or born muslims
     
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    Yeah you sort of did
     
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    Overall.
     
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    Agree with this.

    At the same time i think the young of today are pretty weak as well. For some reason we are taught children need to be nannied, no criticising them when they are young, no negativity. I think theres definitely an element of entitlement and lifestyle that everyone wants without the hardwork behind it. It's certainly not easy to get on the career ladder especially in todays society and/or a lack of proper training from a young age.

    Theres a massive problem with the next generation
     
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    No I sort of didn't. It's simply disohnest to claim that, and makes the pair of you untrustworthy.
     
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    I've said the same myself, mate. It's the young I feel sorry for nowadays. For people if my generation the opportunities were there. And if you were prepared to work hard you could make something out of yourself.

    The opportunities for today's young seem to be far less. Yet, if you have an entrepreneurial streak, they can be far greater than they were in my day. Funding is available today from many sources that just wasn't around back then.
     
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    There are also hundreds of thousands of kids going through the education system with their iPhones each year who will not believe in God by the time they get to University or leave school - I very much suspect that statistics would prove that there is a steady increase in the number that arrive at that conclusion year by year

    Here's another one - many old people coming to the end of their lives find their religion again (understandably) - they are hoping that there is something more after this life ends - I wonder how many of the converts you mention are also older people looking for an alternative to the religion they were born into?
     
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  20. thefanwithnoname

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    There are no official figures as there are for the converts from my knowledge.

    For a convert the suggestion seems to be about how much support they get early on. So marriage conversion may last as long as the marriage but conversion through self research lasts

    Born Muslims tend to filter in and out but push comes to shove say they are Muslim

    Most of the "works" around Muslims leaving seems to be daily mail type persecution work from likes of maryam namazie et al

    Overall the conversion Rate seems to suggest a steady yearly rate with peaks at times after 9/11 etc whixh has surprised many
     
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