I'm not even going to respond you have your opinions and you have to live with it you have to live with your choices so sit back do nothing and enjoy your ride BOOM
and all the other things I want to do I am not arguing or even disagreeing. We all have to live with the problem and just hand wringing and saying something must be done without actually doing something will achieve nothing. I will carry on living my life doing what I want to do, and will continue to go to concerts, football matches..... The way to beat these cnuts is to not let any of them change what you do. We all die sometime and I sure as hell aint going to worry about when its going to happen cos I cant control it.
I'll reply to this post, but not your others. Maybe you could take the article to the families of all those that died at Manchester, or the family of the Soldier who got chopped up, and all the other families around the world who have lost someone to Muslim related bombings, fighting and Terrorism. The Muslims have been fighting Christians, Jews and others as far back as the 1100's, and beyond, especially for the town of Jerusalem back in the days of the Holy Land and the crusades. Saladin was the muslim leader who led his armies against the Crusades and Knights Templar, as well as winning and eventually losing Jerusalem to King Richard the Lionheart, however, after seeking a truce with King Richard, Saladin went on the rampage going into other Muslim countries and defeating them, includes Egypt, Syria and the then Northern Mesopotamia. Muslims have been killing Muslims for centuries, even Saddam Hussein was killing Muslims. Muslims have been trying to overpower each other since Saladin after the Crusades. The Muslim extremists of this era actually are killing white people, Christians and any other non believers and those that don't conform to their way and beliefs, it's on the telly and news on a regular basis, might not be the main Isis force, but there are plenty of sleeper Isis extremists around the world. The reason you only hear of Isis killing other Muslims is for territory, but mainly cos the main Isis force are based somewhere in the Arab Countries, so it stands to reason the only people they can fight are other Arabs and Muslims. The fight against Muslims is not just about Isis, it's also about Muslims taking over the world. Ever stop to think why Muslims crossed all borders into Western Countries, Europe, Asian Countries, America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other Countries including Russia. Was it because they wanted a better life, were they actually fleeing from persecution, and why predominantly Christian Countries and not other Muslim Countries; most seem to hate democracy, but exploit it's freedoms, but still call for Muslim states under Sharia law in all Countries......doesn't make sense, does it, can only be one logical reason, they want to take over the world, kill all who are not Muslim and have a Muslim world free of Christians, Jews and other religions and beliefs. During and after the Afghan war, Mosques started cropping up all over the World, it was said back then, and reported that the Bin Ladens, who were apparently billionaires were funding the building of most if not all Mosques around the World, WHY!....Mosques bring and attract Muslims. It's also been said, and reported that Muslims wanted to buy farms and ranches to build Mosques on, they were also campaigning to councils etc to have Mosques built in remote towns and villages, WHY! so they could bring more Muslims to the areas. I could go on and on, but everything seems to point to, and strongly suggest the Muslims want to take over the World.....will never happen; Romans tried it, Napoleon did too, Hitler had a crack, and all failed. Genghis Khan just wanted to unite the whole of Asia as one Country / Continent. Incidentally, the Muslim faith is not a religion but an ideology created by a human being called Mohammed. As the story goes, and some, if not all Muslims will disagree, Mohammed was kicked out of a religious group, so he decided to make his own faith / ideology approximately 600 years after Christ was born. It is said he took a little bit from the Christian, Jew and Buddhist faiths etc to form his own faith, then he added his own as he went along. One of those rights for all Muslim males was the right to marry a 9 year old girl and have sex with her, this apparently came about cos Mohammed himself took a 9 yr old girl as his wife and had continual sex with her, they could actually marry a 1 year old girl, but could not have sex with her till she was 9 years old, he also gave them the right to have one or more wives which they have a right to beat if they wanted too. Along the way some Muslims thought they had the right to rape any women they pleased, but the women would be blamed, and punished for being raped, sometimes stoned, sometimes executed. Very sick, very very sick, but that's part of Sharia law..........I wonder how those many many rape victims would react to your article. I don't think any decent human being would want one of those types living next door, or many living in the next shire. No Jock, it's not just about Isis and terrorism, it's about all the problems every Country in the world are having with Muslims. At least Mr Robinson is standing up and trying to do something.
The whole point of the post was to make it clear to those that do not know that these extremists are not fighting FOR the Muslim world, they are as against them as any other grouping you care to mention. And 'innocent countries' made me laugh out loud. Britain? Of course we're not innocent. You can blame Blair for that. If somehow ISIS had access t oplanes & re-enacted the Blitz over London, would you call them innocent? Now if you were talking Georgia or Moldova or somewhere 'innocent' in this carnage, you might have a point. But Britain? Bottom line is that a lot more Muslims - by a huge order of magnitude - are being killed as part of this global 'conflict'. To suggest that it is Muslim-led is absolutely ludicrous, as it's them that's suffering huge losses.
The point I was trying to make about him is that he is an opportunist that has picked this up for reasons I would not like to know, but can guess at. But his approach is all wrong. He hasn't a clue. Close the mosques - then they meet somewhere else. Deport the suspects - then more join the Jihad,thinking there must be something in this ISIS stuff. What else does he suggest? Anything of use? Haven't heard it. If A&E operated on the basis he's suggesting, we'd have huge queues waiting to get plaster put on wounds that should be stitched or operated on. He provides sticking plaster answers that will not stick (did you see what I did there). I would be delighted if he had a solution, but all he has is anger and half-baked rantings. A bit like the situation where we had TTGM ranting about how badly the club was run - when not one of them had any idea what the true problems were. Didn't stop them offering solutions of the sticking plaster variety, delivered by rant. Solved absolutely nothing.
I largely agree with what you're saying, but draw the line at immigration being a problem. It could be defined as a facilitator, but it serves only to allow free movement of those who would do us harm. They can get ashore here anyway, with or without immigration. We don't guard our coastline properly, and with the funding they have, they can come ashore wherever they like, when they like. The root of the problem, as I've said before, is to stop the indoctrination & funding in Iran & Saudi. We will always have a problem until this happens. But who would we sell lots of arms to if we took them out?
I've come closer than most. I left Edgware road 4-5 minutes before the blast on 7/7. I was a bit early for once. You don't get luck like that often.
? I didnt mean to indicate wehether i feel immigration is a problem or not, i dont disagree about our weak borders. The point I am trying yo make is that those blaming immigrants or even muslims on masse need to say how they would solve the problem. Afaik you cant deport your own citizens and nearly all the radicalised clowns are british born.
Maybe you could take the article to the families of all those that died at Manchester, or the family of the Soldier who got chopped up, and all the other families around the world who have lost someone to Muslim related bombings, fighting and Terrorism. You normally anger me, but this one takes the biscuit. Perhaps you could read the following article (if the Sun offends, there are many others if you google his name), and then see what you have to say to me, Alan's step-brother. My step-family & I did not respond by frothing at the mouth. We took time to understand the situation and the cause. https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/n...easier-to-take-if-the-taliban-had-killed-him/ You may even have seen footage on the BBC of Alan meeting & escorting Prince Charles at York Minster, with half of his head missing. He would not let them win. I'm sure Alan would have encouraged me to show the articles to the stricken families, at the right time, if he thought it would do any good. He was a thinker. The ranter you support, he would have dealt with in his own way.
you cant fight bombs with words, good ideas, and political jargon fed up of hearing AFTER the events he was known for this, known for that bollox if he is known for this and known for that WIPE HIM OUT REMOVE HIM and ALL his known associates How many more cars and Trucks going to be used to murder innocent people How many more suicide bombers How many more people have to die to these HE WAS KNOWN FOR THIS KNOWN FOR THAT scumbags ? IF he is known REMOVE HIM
I wouldn't call myself a terrorist sympathiser at all even though what I'm going to say makes it seem that way. The best way to fix all of this is to stop dropping a **** ton of bombs on these countries. Terrorist attacks are ****ing awful. But imagine knowing you have family that live in Syria who are getting drone bombed everyday, thousands of civilians maybe even millions dying because of these drone attacks. You can understand the anger, especially in Syria which has become a pathetic proxy world war 3. For the young lads who live in these countries it becomes even clearer. You have freinds / family / children getting killed around you by the west for no great reason. The schools are all ****ed so they have no education. You have a bunch of lads that are fuming with no education. What can you expect to happen. That doesn't change what we have now, which is a problem that needs to be addressed. But as I have said before, the best way to address it is by pulling out of Syria / the east and stop holding hands with Saudi Arabia. I'm a lefty but I consider myself a realistic one and I'm fucjing infuriated by the posts that constantly re assure us that Islam isn't a problem. It is a problem, quite clearly. But this talk of taking the fight to them is laughable, what you gona do? Start spitting at them in the street? Lol if you do. You become an un educated angry person just like they are.
But this talk of taking the fight to them is laughable, what you gona do? Start spitting at them in the street? Lol if you do. You become an un educated angry person just like they are. no I'm gonna pat them on the back and say well done keep up the good work next time you want to drive a truck into a crowd of people I will lend you mine
Well clearly not. But what are you going to do? Burn down a mosque, create more angry people. Won't work. This was started by politics and can be ended by politics. It's just a shame all politicians are ****ing ****.
almost the most sensible thing you have ever said but just one flaw the politics aint working the murder continues right here right now and tomorrow and next week how many more lives should we lose whilst the politics get sorted give me a number ?
Well I could ask you the same question. What number would you deem reasonable if we stood up in the streets and started fighting back. I suspect that would result in a higher number Infact. It also wouldn't resolve the issue because wether you like it or not the majority of Muslims are uk born so can't be deported etc.
Let's be perfectly clear about something. There are actually 2 problems that are quite distinct (although there are a number of overlaps). 1. We have a problem with 'Islamic' extremists. This mob seem to prefer killing Muslims more than any other creed , colour, or religion. They are violent murderers who do not care for people, nor, despite what they say, the furtherance of Islam. Their prime aim is to create a Caliphate. By any means. 2. We have a problem with the progression of Islam. This is not a violent project. It is done by stealth. Kashmir is the perfect example. The country is split in half between India & Pakistan control. For decades, Muslims have 'invaded' Kashmir peacefully and are slowly taking over the country by stealth through breeding large families - the voters of the future. This is their most successful spell in their almost 1000 year history. Violent for centuries, the penny finally dropped with them that peaceful means was the way to progress. Since them, they have had their most successful period ever. In most countries, even in the west, they are expanding for all to see. But you must not confuse this with problem #1, above.
