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Explosion in Manchester

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, May 22, 2017.

  1. Tobes

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    Some spotty student with a head full of theory, twisted ideals and **** all life experience.

    Reckons he's going to live in Rojava after he's got his 1st from Uni, that tells you all you need to know lol.
     
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  2. Spook

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    They already have. I don't know what else you want from British Muslims after numerous mosques and organisations have already condemned. They've done enough.
     
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    <laugh>
     
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  4. Tobes

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    I never said they had to have 'extra condemnation' though. Try again.
     
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    I never said you did. I'm talking about page after page of ****e from other people insisting they do.
     
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  6. PINKIE

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    Well **** you then :)
     
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  7. Stan

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  8. DMD

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    You know nothing about who I spend my time with. The 'comfort zone' you allege I am in, is nearer to the one you suggest I try. It's just your pompous ignorance that makes you choose to assume otherwise.

    You simply get prickly and try to devolve your responsibility, and then whine like a bitch at the possibility of people reacting negatively to you.
     
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  9. PINKIE

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    This ^^^

    It's very naive to frame it as a 'muslim' problem.
     
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    Neatly avoiding everything I've said.

    To my knowledage, radical Islam is the only branch that exports its perverted version of the faith. It not only encourages, finances, and cheers the kind of disgusting acts we saw the other night, it advocates the destruction of all other faiths and the introduction of global shariah law.

    Now, unless you know of another religion or credo that does anything like that, to the extent of extreme Islam, there is no comparison.
     
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  11. NSIS

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    Those Comparisons are utter bollocks.

    Buddhists do not export violent terrorism around the globe. There's the difference!..
     
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  12. NSIS

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    No! It isn't!!...it's exactly a Muslim problem!..

    This perversion of a faith, who's name suoposedly means 'peace' came from within Islam. Only Islam has the means to stop it.
     
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  13. Skylarker

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    **** me it seems like the Politics thread is spilling over to other threads <yikes>
     
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    Hiag and Piskie will be along in a minute!...<laugh>
     
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    They are acting within Islam, in their point of view. To distance ourselves from this is essential, so we do when we have to. Such as this week as like 2 months prior. I can't educate every individual if they want to believe that the bombers are representing Islam...even Trump has managed to disassociate these people from Islam because ultimately he knows he has to or he alienates Muslims openly and that can't be right, logic tells you that can't be right. So even a dick like Trump switches his brain on to recognise the difference. All I can do is condemn it when it's my turn to speak or be heard. I'm not denying that they are using Islam to reach their political needs. I also know I can't stop them.

    Political sympathy - it's very difficult to not link the two when we have spent our whole lives from childhood watching Palastine get smashed and oppressive Western policies pillaging Muslim countries. I might have been born and raised here and live a very Western life but I'm far too conscious to not recognise that these people faced persecution for being the same thing as me. 41 years and counting...it's still happening today. We hate Muslim leaders too, they love to sell their souls at any given opportunity. We sympathise with the normal families, those that remind me of my own, just like them kids on Monday reminded me of my own.

    So I understand from the outside how it can look, but a lot more is going on in the inside and any platform I can get, I take, in order to make that point in the hope that it might carry a bit of weight. However I'm just someone on an Internet forum and what I say won't be used as hard evidence in times to come to defend a Muslim...ill have to do it all again the next time.
    I get the feeling that Non Muslims are almost saying 'You better sort it out or you get lumped with them'. I don't think that is right, I'm afraid Non Muslims, if they are bothered, are going to have to start putting the effort into getting into the communities a bit and giving it a chance...I don't know of any other way I can promote the normal Muslims and their day to day shenanigans.

    My Missus comes from Braintree, Essex.....it's amazing how little her family knew about Islam, apart from we wear Turbans and that's wrong too. We can't educate everyone if they are not bothered enough. These brown ****ers live amongst you, in the same country, why have people not educated themselves about them? New pub opens down the road and every **** knows the price list. I know a lot about a lot of faiths because I could be arsed to learn. The mentality of British people and their desire to be educated in other people's faiths and cultures leaves a lot to be desired too.
     
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  16. PINKIE

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    Thats just pure ignorance. There is religious turmoil all over the planet and its perpetrated by people from various faiths.

    I agree that the problem of islamic extremism and lone suicide bombings is a particular issue that Islam and the west need to address together. But it's naive to assume that the terrorist problem exists only in Islam
     
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  17. PINKIE

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    I'm already here. HIAG doesn't do politics.
     
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  18. NSIS

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    Some good points, mate.

    However, the Kustard's of the world will never bother to try and educate themselves about anything that's 'foreign' to them. They're more than happy to tar you all with the same brush. There are millions of 'little Englanders' out there.

    As I've said, this problem came from within Islam and only Islam can help bring it to an end, imo.
     
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    They're the only ones exporting it globally. That's not naive, that's a fact.
     
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    Needs more DM articles and winning.
     
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