He is filth and deserves an unmarked grave. That's about as much as I know or care to know about him. The security was apparently p*** poor at the venue so hopefully there will be repercussions for them also.
Yes, with the delightful Friday prayer when final victory over the Kuffar is preached. That isn't just in Wahabist/deobandi mosques or other extremist linked Mosques - but most 'normal' Mosques in Britain and much of the western world. When you teach children at a young age that sort of mindset - I think you will undoubtedly see problems.
Got a source on that? I'm not doubting that sort of thing goes on (and might be a bit more widespread than the Guardianistas like to think) but it's an important distinction to work out whether it's a mainstream or fringe thing.
You can always ask a practising Muslim mate - the issue might be skirted, it might be truthful - it depends really - probably easy for me being from Birmingham and the area I'm in. If you would like a more scholarly approach you can read/watch Tarek Fatah.
If it helps stop something like last night happening, I have no problem. Lock the bastards up before they do anything, somewhere secure, they can disappear as far as I concerned. How did the Police, know his identity so soon?
He had ID on him (or what was left of him). This seems to be a trait of these murderous scum, to leave a calling card.
The missus showed me a photo on Facebook this morning of a friends daughters' friend who was there. Head covered in blood, but, she was ok. Apparently, the missing lad from Gateshead is local and is a barman at the Gateshead Arms.
It's a long time since I've shed a tear but with a daughter 8 another 16 and a son 17 this hit me ****ing hard... Hearing the stories and seeing the footage... Wtf is going on and wtf are we going to do about it..... I'm full of hate and anger.
The way I see it, the situation we now find ourselves in has been building for decades. A failed foreign policy combined with (huge) failed immigration policies, the use of the internet to spread messages of hate and build bombs....and twisted 'religious' types thinking they can blow themselves and everyone else up and then go to heaven. They've all combined to form this potent mix, and things will probably get worse before they (ever) get better. The fact that we now have armed police and soldiers on our streets tells me that this could be one last throw of the dice.
He isn't British, he's parents were afforded the luxury and opportunity to be Refugee's in this country and his mum and sister have since returned to Libya. Just because he was born in Britain does not mean he was British. He is Libyan by descent, he's family live in Libya and he obviously holds no patriotic feelings towards Britain, He's a mass murderer of women and children. I'm not against bringing refugee's into the country completely, but when you look at Paris, London, Germany, Sweden in comparison to Poland, Bulgaria and some of the other European countries who refused entry you can see that there will always be room for bombings like in Manchester. It might not be this generation, it could be the next, but slowly over the next 80-100 years integration will continue to rise and this country will be unrecognisable. We will get to the point when enough is enough, but by then it will be too late, British people will be the minority and will hold no voting power.
Germany has already crossed the demographic rubicon. Italy will be the same way if they don't put an end to this absurd taxi service from Libya. The vast majority of them are not refugees but economic migrants. The Major of Palermo said that the city was no longer an Italian one but a blend of African and the middle east and it is apparently ' a good thing' - the same for many green politcians who, with some delight, brag that most major German cities within 20 years will have a German minority and that is also 'a wonderful thing'. Its nothing less than demographic and cultural suicide.
Nothing wrong with being and economic migrant. The TV series Auf Wiedersein, Pet! was based on a group of such economic migrants. Mark Knofler wrote a similar themed song on the subject and I, too, were an economic migrant having to look for work in the 80s in Belgium, Germany and Norway. Am I to be equally blamed for bringing my culture to these foreign lands? Historically the English are economic migrants from across Europe coming over to these isles as a collection of different races overthrowing the Brythonic Celtic language of these lands. So, should the English be told to move back to Holland, France, Germany, Spain, Scandinavia and beyond so that the orginal people of these lands can claim their homelands? No, you'd say. That's different. But it's not. In a hundred years whatever the social landscape will be will be the new normal. People migrate, that's normal and to put up walls and say No More Movement didn't work well for the USSR and Albania in the past and even though North Korea is trying that now it's not a place where I would want to live. In fact where I have lived the happiest have been in the most cosmopolitain cities where people live side by side and not in an Albert Speer eugentically designed and maintained state as a lot of posts seem to propose here.
I don't think the aim is to stop movement altogether but to limit the numbers of people coming in. That was probably the main reason why this country voted Brexit last year. I'm fine with that.
We are all migrants and I understand that, I never said I was against it I don't disagree with migration, I just believe migration should be to the benefit of the two parties, both the migrant and the country of choice. Looking at history, migration can be such a positive thing, look at America and how much it has developed (well to the distain of the American Indians who have literally been wiped out, which could potentially be any race going forward. The planet is different now. The amount of people on the planet has never been higher, eco conservation is an issue, food and energy sustainability will soon become issues (unless science fixes that too) I believe quality of life has deteriorated, but technology subsides this and brings us in to a false sense that we are actually better off now. I think the problem is the country isn't big enough for everyone. We need to start operating a green card system, celebrities, politician's and anyone rich will always say we need to help, we need to take refugees we need to do our bit, but they don't pay for it, their security isn't at risk, their hospital beds GP centres, jobs aren't being over crowded. for most big businesses more people means more customers, means more money, squeeze em in, they don't care if there's no houses if anything it will push the house prices of their massive portfolio's up! It's me and you, we are the people that end up paying for it. I have no issue with helping and economic migrants, but you can't allow 100,000.00's of people to travel from go knows where on a boat over the med to come here and expect to be looked after.
Don't lecture me on history please and it is a complete false equivalency and you know it. A handful of Geordie workers compared to millions of people which will also allow for family reunifications? Do you have any idea what this will do for the proposed host country? Contrary to popular belief, of this great exodus that has entered Germany in recent years, nearly 80% are on benefits to some degree. Moreover, you disregard any notion of a British or English national identity, only then to claim such a thing for the peoples of Holland, France, Germany, Spain, Scandinavia and beyond? Surely you can see the flaw in this absurd argument. If we went down the path of arguing that so-and-so country should be given back to its apparent original occupiers - largely peoples or civilizations which no longer exist - we'd be here all day. Give Mexico back to Mayans, Aztecs, etc? Give Turkey back to the Byzantine Empire? Who do you think inhabited 'South Africa' as we know it prior to Shaka's Mfecane? This changed the ethnic make-up of that area enormously. Hell, Boers were there longer and yet undoubtedly are still viewed as being illegal occupiers of that land. Why one rule for one? Where do we draw the line? Also, these movements - mass movements of people from the Barbarian invasions of the Western Roman Empire or the Slavic invasions of Greece, they always come with violence. It is not normal to emigrate en masse to another country. What do you think will happen? To deny that Western Europe has been reasonably settled for nearly a 1,000 years before the 1950s is utter nonsense. From the Norman conquest, we have not seen massive large-scale migration, save small pockets of Flemish colonists and Italian bankers from the Bardi during the Middle Ages and the Huguenot settlements during the 17th century. It was only during the 1950's that this great experiment began. This great city you live in, nice mix I take it? What happens when one proportion of that mix becomes dominant, when it hasn't been in this position before - what happens then? The status quo will change. What if they don't abide by your sense of freedoms, laws, free speech, etc? Dhimmitude isn't nice lad - ask religious minorities in most Muslim dominated countries. The African population will nearly double by 2050 (it's projected to be 4 billion by the end of the century), they can barely contain themselves now - where may I ask will this population surplus go? Will it be north by any chance? If tens of millions of Africans pour into Europe, along with millions of Middle Easterners - combined with their explosive birth rates and low European birth rates - there will be only one outcome. Forget a new enlightment, a new renaissance - the continent will be thrown into a new dark age ruled by theocratic nutcases. That is the future. Albert Speer? Jesus mate - I'll debate you happily but don't go there, it's beneath you. It's basically the equivalent of calling me a Nazi and attempting to shutdown the argument. It doesn't work anymore.
I like the quote on how it hasn't worked well for North Korea. It's got nothing to do with their dictator leaders with nukes who pay no attention to human rights and kill any one who disagrees with them. As other countries don't like this, they don't trade with them, there are massive economic constraints when you threaten to kill everyone. N Korea's mess is nothing to do with wall's or migration. People don't migrate to economic wastelands where you get killed for sneezing
