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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Chappaz, Aug 15, 2011.

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  1. Chappaz

    Chappaz Active Member

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    I said this in another thread but I think it's worth highlighting for those who might miss it:

    Let's say these strongest transfer rumours become true:

    In:

    Pieters: £7mill
    Maiga: £8mill
    Cabaye: £5.5mill
    Obertan: £3mill
    Ben Arfa: £5mill?
    Signing on/agent fees for Ba, Marveaux and Abeid: AT LEAST £2mill

    Total: £30.5mill this year

    Out:

    Carroll: £35mill
    Enrique: £6mill
    Nolan: £4.5mill
    Routledge: £2mill

    In: £47.5mill this year

    Given the only high earners to leave were Enrique and Nolan, the wages will have almost certainly went up with 4 extra players, including Ba, Ben Arfa and Cabaye who certainly won't be on low sums.

    That leaves a gross profit of £17mill in 2011, undoubtedly less than that with the higher wage expenditure. I'd also expect us to spend a little more in the January transfer window to bolster the squad mid-season.

    Over £30million spend, who would have expected that?
     
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  2. Amnesiac

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    Someone speaks sense <ok>
     
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  3. Darth Gogledd

    Darth Gogledd Well-Known Member

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    Cabye was 4.3mill.

    And singing fees etc for Ba and Marveaux were a lot more than 2mill.

    Other than that, your numbers look good.
     
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    Signing on fees are ridiculous, I'd be surprised if we spent less than 5m combined in todays market with agents.
     
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  5. Mod Face

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    Wasn't Carroll on about £40k? Got a payrise then wanted another a few months later...
     
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  6. Chappaz

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    If we take into account the likely higher fees for Ba, Marveaux and Abeid, as as well as the agent fees for the other players, we've probably hit the £35mill mark in all of the costs combined.

    If that's the case, then as promised, we HAVE spent all of the Carroll money this year.
     
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    Your forgetting Sol Campbell left as well on £40k a week.

    £30 mil spent, you wud have thought that? According to you £47 million sold. In my world, call it simplistic, but thats £17mil made. just saying
     
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  8. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    And Routledge who'd have been on 10k plus I'd imagine

    Just ignore meI'm having one of those days I meant wor Shefki
     
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  9. Smudger

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    Technically, we never said the Nolan or Enrique money would be re invested, only Carroll's.
     
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  10. Marvo

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    Wasn't Ben Arfa £5.5mil + the initial loan fee (around £2m from what I remember)?

    In terms of transfers, provided at least a LB comes in, Ashley's done pretty well for the club these past couple seasons. Maybe he deserves some more credit than he gets from most of the fans.
     
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    This! I get sick of people coming on here saying but we sold Nolan & Enrique too...when did they say that money would be re invested? We've made a profit and if those two signings come off we've strengthened our team! I'm sure people would be happy if we'd spent £50m on absolute crap
     
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  12. NufcBano

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    Carroll £35k, Nolan £50k, Enrique £40k, Campbell £40k, Routledge £20k = £185k a week.

    Cabaye £40k?, Ben Arfa £40k?, Ba £30k?, Marveaux £25k?, Abeid £5k?, Obertan £30k? = £170k a week?

    With hopefully 2 more signings to come....
     
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  13. Smudger

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    Think you're way off there mate, I'd say all around the 50k p/w mark.
     
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  14. NufcBano

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    You have to remember they are coming from the French Ligue. There wages are not like ours in the Prem. These players would have been on half of what I am quoting there. Ive basically doubled it. Ba has been reported with some clout that he is on £30k a week, read it somewhere. He was willing to take a cut on his West Ham deal to play in the Prem.
     
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  15. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    To be honest you'd be sensible to assume given the size of our squad that any players sold would be replaced. I think the whole 35m and money generated from sales just needs to be forgotten. It is correct to think that our wage bill has gone down and we've made a profit in transfers. Given this was the intention I don't see what the problem is? Yes they did put out the misleading stories about the 35m but to be honest its old hat now (had to get a hat in). Pardew has been quite clear more recently that we are a selling club and costs needs to come down, debts reduced. We can either moan about it or get on. I do moan from time to time as people are sold but that is just looking at things from a footballing perspective, not a business one. It would be lovely to be awash with money and retained the likes of Nolan/Carroll/Enrique while adding the new players. Of course we'd be a better team and be more sure about how the season would go. But we're not cash rich and he wants his money back so we have to sell to buy.
     
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    Im a bit bored of it all as well. But to be clear, the very simplistic view is this:

    Last year: Income £100m, Operating costs £20/25m, Wages £60m = Profit £15/£20m. This doesnt include transfers in or out. Just need to look at the info in and around the internet to come to this estimation of last year.
     
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  17. Voluptuous Vuckic

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    Shola, is that you ?????



    <laugh>
     
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  18. Minty Fresh

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    Why are we giving Ashley credit for two signings that haven't happened yet? I know these transfers sound probable but I think we should judge him on the 1st pf September, no earlier.

    If we do sign a LB and a striker I will be satisfied, if we signed 3 players I would be happy.
     
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    Cabaye was £4.5m and the Pieters deal is rumoured to be &#8364;6m and Maiga &#8364;7m, I don't know the exact exchange rates but can confidently say that you're way off <ok> Also you've missed off Campbell so there's another £25k off the wage bill.
     
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  20. NufcBano

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    .....£40k
     
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