Off Topic Politics Thread

Off the top of my head I can recall Laura Kuenssberg being the first person to point out the Conservatives had broken their National Insurance promise in the last budget and I also recall her asking Theresa May and Donald Trump some awkward questions.

Corbyn leads a party where most of the MPs don't want him as leader, some candidates for election actually refuse to associate themselves with him and is espousing policies that haven't been seriously proposed for close to 30 years (possibly longer). Of course he's going to get a hard time.

 

It would be the same answer if you asked me to point you toward any criticism of Labour.(can't be arsed) she maybe annoying,no she definitely is but biased against/toward one party nah!

 

Policies not seriously proposed for 30 years? Like the Conservative approach to education?

 

The grammar school debate never really went away. Not really comparable to the massive programme of state intervention, increased tax, increased borrowing and anti-business policies currently on offer from Corbyn and McDonnell.

 

She isn't pro-Tory. She is out to bury anyone and develop this intriguing vast "house of cards according to Kuennsberg" scenario because she thinks she is the star and not there to report the news. Every single segment she does reports on everybody as if she is the all seeing I. Can;t stand the woman beaming, grinning as if she is the great informer.

Much prefer people like Norman Smith or Chris Mason who just deliver the news and "what they've heard" instead of then developing vast storylines with her ending with a summary of what we should make of her Narnia version.

The worst is that the BBC love her and like everything else in the world these days (especially politics) people repeat. In her case her colleagues pick up on her storyline and start repeating things she has "deduced" and she drives narratives.

When she asks a question whether it be Tory, Labour or even Trump it is a rhetorical question. She is giving her opinion in the question to plant the seed to report on and is not needing an answer. Her opinion is all that matters. Hate her with a vengeance

Chris Mason is much better. Great sense of humour, reports what happens and rather than tell you what something means (as in a personal interpretation) he will give a couple of alternatives of what it could mean with a heavy caveat that he is just conjecturing.

And of course Professor John Curtice who I love. Makes me think of Professor Brainstawm from books I used to read and he only deals with facts but again he gives alternatives rather than a singular interpretation presented as fact.

This is probably why Curtice gets much closer in his predictions. He doesn't go in with a pre-conceived idea that he knows what people think whereas Kellner and most of the other pollsters think they can second guess anything and thus end up miles away.

I wish Kuennsberg would go back to ITV news where she can spout her premunitions to her heart's content while I don't watch. Much preferred Peston. At least that Doom and Gloom was the order of the day with him. Well.................. He knew how to fill 10 minutes with very little content without inventing stuff.

Sp--e--ak.........v-er---y.....................sl-ow-ly

 

It is if you work in the sector and know it is a deplorable move with no possible positive outcome, being pushed by carefully starving schools of money and making teaching as a profession nigh on untenable. People who send their kids to private schools, or can move to a more fashionable area, or who can get coaching to get their kids into these "grammar schools" will obviously be happy, while 99% of the country rots.

The public sector has been pitched as the enemy of the people for too long, with our disgusting strikes and ridiculous hope we might get more than 1% pay rises, but the truth is we are the servants of society. Teachers, nurses, doctors and the police are trying to keep this country together - and I don't know any who think austerity is working.

Like I said, I have no party bias, but listening to May stick her head in the sand ("we've put more money into schools" my arse) is beyond a joke.

 

They should employ Jonathan Pie instead. Would brighten up the news no end and make it much more interesting:

 

Weeks and months' worth of memos from Comey now 'leaking'.

Comey prepared to testify publicly in front of congress. Comey's memos saying that Trump ordered others out of the room and then demanded that he ended the FBI investigation into Flynn/Russia allegations.

They also believe there may be audio of these meetings, including Trump and Comey alone. Oversight committee in Congress beginning to request a hearing and want Comey in ASAP to testify.

Grab the popcorn...

 

Yeah, I thought that Trump was particularly stupid last week publicly warning Comey not to leak any recordings that he may have. I'm pretty sure that I wasn't the only person who thought, "Why? What are you afraid of, Mr Pres?"

 

I didn't think Trump would last the 4 years but I'm beginning to wonder if he will make a year. He needs to learn to control his mouth (and typing finger) and think first.

 

I don't believe he has that ability....

 

No neither do I. How dare anyone question him? It's all fake news you know.

 

Tories manifesto includes getting more elderly to pay for their care.

 

And get on the phone to Paddy Power? They're offering 2/1 against Trump being impeached

 

The odds on Trump to be impeached in 2019 are way, way too long at the moment at 20/1. If he doesn't resign, and the GOP doesn't show the willingness to lead the impeachment effort themselves, January 2019 is the time at which the Democrats might take back the House (it was a longshot...might not be now) and impeachment becomes far more likely. Gives them a full year for hearings and filing the articles.

20/1 on impeachment in 2019 and a meaty bet with 15/8 on resignation covers quite a lot of the eventualities.

 

Interesting admission by George.

https://www.thecanary.co/2017/05/17...ls-an-embarrassing-tory-secret-instead-video/

 

I find it hard to understand. A government's job is to defend against terrorism but shouldn't part of its remit be to educate people and give them a decent idea of the risks they truly face?

Vin

 

Oh, and I'm starting to feel sorry for him....



Vin

 

Let me take you by the hand
And lead you through the streets of .. anywhere
I'll show you something
That's sure to change your mind

Apologies to Ralph McTell