Psycho you're just saying that because you've been ' OWNEDE !?!?!?1/!!?//1/1?!?1/ ' too many times. You have to be careful what you post
Whilst I know this is true and you know this is true, Stereo, you've forgotten to add the word "fact" to your assertion. An elementary mistake and one that lets me off the hook entirely (in the eyes of an impressionable world).
Man. I'm so sick of being OWNEDE !?!?!?1/!!?//1/1?!?. You hurt me by bringing this up, for definite. Shame on you etc.
In my blinkered and ever hopeful way, Dev, I'm choosing to take that as a compliment. You had a pretty useful alliance with BH going, though, so don't let me stop you from carrying on. (I hope you had a good time in Portugal, incidentally. Possibly my favourite country.)
It was a compliment, you have a knack for summarising things in a few simple words. Portugal was superb, i'm off back to Carvoiero on 1st October. Hopefully this time my Villa will not get tanned.
Nice one. I'll try not to be envious of the fact that you're going for the second time this year. I’ve not been there, unfortunately, although I’ve spent a day in Sintra (which is “just” down the road, if memory serves and if you’re talking about the Carvoeira I’m thinking of - although I've been badly wrong about these things before). Don’t be alarmed, okay, but there is a fair chance I’ll be in Portugal at the same time as you (I bought a flight for last Wednesday, in fact, but didn’t quite make the plane, so it’s back to the abysmally uninspired drawing board). I’ll be in Ferragudo and Tavira, however, so you can probably just about relax. <DevandPsychoineroticallychargedcoffeedatehell/shame/outrage etc>
no you are the clueless mong the evidence above clearly states that the 'far lower than expected' actually means THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, WE MADE IT UP its called 'propaganda'
You need to learn to read dipshoite Dev gave reports from the UNODC and the NYtimes These have been shown earlier to have been MADE UP, by the UNODC people themselves So no i havent ignored it I have not only responded, but given evidence of 'making things up' by the very people who wrote the report you really are a clueless fecker it must be the anger from being so wrong
Once again the classic 'take one snippet and base a fault argument around it' as proven in the rest of the article, the overexaggeration meaning NO EVIDENCE WE MADE IT UP here is the rest again your evidence from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), has been torn to shred, by the people who wrote it - the report acknowledges the role of non-Taliban actors, the âdrug lords and even some farmersâ, but nevertheless downplays their role and characterizes the cultivation of poppies and production of opium as being predominantly controlled by the Taliban. But this is not an accurate representation of the facts on the ground, as the findings of the UNODC report itself makes clear. -While people suggest the Taliban have âsystematically encouragedâ, citing the UNODC study, those words in fact do not appear in the report. Nor does it make any similar claim -Contrary to suggestions, the UNODC report gives no indication that the reason cultivation was cut back had anything whatsoever to do with any kind of direction or control over the crop by the Taliban. -Thomas Pietschmann, a research officer with the UNODC Statistics and Surveys Section who is credited in the 2008 report, told the Journal that an estimated $50-70 million is made by warlords from the farmers. An additional $200-400 million is made from the traffickers. But, he explained, âWe do not have any good idea of how this income is divided up between warlords and Taliban.â -Mr. Pietschmann also confirmed to the Journal that, âWe also have not seen strong indications of direct exporting of opiates by the Taliban.â -In commentary attached to the UNODC report, Mr. Costa asks, âWho collects this money? Local strong men. In other words, by year end, war-lords, drug-lords and insurgents will have extracted almost half a billion dollars of tax revenue from drug farming, production and trafficking.â Notably, Mr. Costa does not answer his question with âthe Talibanâ. When Mr. Costa told reporters, âThey have called a moratorium of sorts as a way of keeping the stocks stable and supporting the priceâ, the âTheyâ was reported as meaning âthe Talibanâ. But the UNODC Executive Director intended his use of the pronoun to include other groups . In fact, the word âTalibanâ does not appear in the report outside of Mr. Costaâs comments. - It should be noted that this conclusion, too, may be inaccurate, as there are simply too many unknowns. But what is clear is that the Taliban do not control it. -Mr. Pietschmann, in his comments to the Journal, presented the notion of the Taliban as merely a possibility. - Indeed, Mr. Costaâs own commentary in the UNODC report contains numerous caveats, such as âIf the Taliban are holding major drug stockpilesâ¦â (emphasis added), suggesting this is only a possibility, not a certainty. -By overemphasizing the role of the Taliban, the report serves to obfuscate the apparent role of local leaders and, more importantly, government and law enforcement officials in the drug trade. -The role of the Taliban in the opium trade is often greatly exaggerated by the U.S. corporate media PS THIS IS ALSO THE RESPONSE TO DEV's SNIPPETS FROM NYTIMES ETC THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY THE fOREIGN POLICY PEOPLE TO HIGHLIGHT HOIW THE ARTICLES WERE MISLEADING
Four men involved in two drugs-for-weapons rings that allegedly intended to supply Stinger missiles, AK-47 automatic rifles and U.S. carbines to the Taliban and material support to Hezbollah were arrested following a pair of Drug Enforcement Administration sting operations, officials in New York said today. At least two of those men, Lebanese national Bachar Wehbe and Afghan national Tazar Gul Alizai, are in the U.S. and slated to appear before a federal court in Manhattan, according to federal law enforcement sources. Investigators said that Gul Aliza, an alleged Taliban member, was busted selling assault rifles and large amounts of heroin to an undercover DEA agent in Kandahar, Afghanistan. Meanwhile, Bachar Wehbe, a Lebanese alleged member of Hezbollah, and two other suspected Hezbollah associates were also busted by federal DEA agents posing as high grade weapons dealers. These three were planning to use money from the heroin sales to buy Stinger surface-to-air missiles, AK-47 rifles and M-4 rifles, investigators said. "In this conspiracy, you have heroin and you have guns and he was doing a deal to get the money back to Hezbollah," Derek Maltz, DEA Special Agent in Charge of Special Operations Division, said. "He signed a contract to bring these massive amounts of weapons to Hezbollah." Wehbe's alleged confederates, Siavosh Henareh and Cetin Aksu, are in custody in Romania and awaiting extradition to the U.S. The cases are the third and fourth such weapons stings recently by the DEA including the highly publicized case of international arms broker Victor Bout. The operations are part of an aggressive expansion of their drug enforcement mission that has enabled federal prosecutors to successful make arms cases that otherwise may not have been brought into the U.S. "Today's indictments provide fresh evidence of what many of us have been seeing for some time: the growing nexus between drug trafficking and terrorism, a nexus that threatens to become a clear and present danger to our national security," Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/taliban-hezbollah-agents-nabbed-drugs-arms-stings-feds/story?id=14161428 July 26, 2011
its statements from the vvery people who wrote the report you were citing The NYtimes and the UNODC If it had been a different source, then yes your argument could have stood but the very people who said it was, are saying no it wasnt It was 'evidence' provided by you and the people you believe now the same people are saying we got it wrong, why cant you accept that hypocracy maybe?
