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  1. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I'd say the gamble with the Chelsea match wasn't so much Trippier for Walker but Son for Davies. Playing an attacking player in a defensive position he'd never played before was mad, Davies should be the one more annoyed at that selection than anyone.

    Trippier had started every match of that FA Cup run at RB, so while from a fan's standpoint we'd have wanted to see our best XI start, it's also understandable to allow Trippier to have kept his place.

    Walker is indeed a top player but only so because of Pochettino. Before Poch arrived, many were getting pissed off with Walker's performances (just like Rose). He has every right to feel disappointed but he needs an ego check if he thinks the manager needs to explain his selection to him, especially when the player he was rotated for is a very good player in his own right and someone who more than earned their spot in the XI for that particular match.
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Yeah Levy just needs to pretty much give Toby a blank cheque. I'd like to think the club will agree a deal soon enough, the media are probably making more of it than what it is, Toby is one of the most indispensable players at the club and I'm sure Levy knows that.

    It's quite hard to say who the leader is out of the two. Jan's vice captain but he's been here longer and Toby's sheer presence seems to raise the game of his fellow defenders. Although this season, when Toby got injured for a spell, Jan was excellent and has probably had his best season to date. Many of us have been voting for our POTS and Wanyama is currently pipping Jan by 12 votes to 10, so it shows how good we all think Jan has been. Dier tends to play so much better when in that back three with Toby AND Jan, when he's been partnered in a back four with just one of them, he's had lapses in concentration - which I suppose is natural for a young CB. I think potentially, Dier can become as good, maybe even better than those two, although it'll need a lot of work, failing that he can definitely become a superb DM.
     
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  3. BobbyD

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    Yeah Jans definitely a senior player in the team. I think I just get that impression as Jans been here through the bad times as well as the good and his previous partnerships (whether thats management, **** partners, him maturing making his game all the better) have always been either brilliant or terrible. I remember there was a period you guys though the had downed tools (AVB) whereas now he's back to his best. Since Tobys been here you guys have been rock solid (although that coincides with poch too).

    Dier is a good defender. I'm not sure whether he will ever get out of the funk of a lapse in concentration or to which seems to plague many defenders so it's not necessarily a slight on him. I certainly agree he's brilliant in that DM role in Pochs system as his understanding of the game and joining it at a back 3 at times. He's got pretty good ball distribution and he's a good reader of the game and is athletic so is pretty perfect for it.

    The only thing i would criticise of him is that he does seem to not be great on the ball when pressed. I guess that is what you have Dembele for though, or the 3-4-3 so that the onus isn't on him to turn and make the play.
     
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  4. Citizen Kane

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    Vertonghen has had to play alongside Federico Fazio, Vlad Chiriches and Kyle Naughton.

    If anything, he deserves a pay rise far more than Toby does.
     
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    As the media are just too damn stubborn to let go of the Walker story, today it's being reported that Poch is looking to bring back Adam Smith as his replacement.

    Such a shame that they aren't willing to combine the two stories they've become obsessed with, namely Walker to Man Cuity and Aguero to Man Utd, and combine them into a swap deal involving Walker and Aguero where Man Utd somehow end up paying £80m in agent fees.

    As I said at the time, around the time of the FA Cup semi several teams had been able to exploit a weakness at Chelsea's far post, notably Palace, Liverpool and Man Utd, so if we were going to do the same Trippier was the player who could do it. Let's be honest, if we were playing against eleven men instead of twelve, that move could well have been proclaimed as a tactical masterstroke after the match - although the less said about Son at left back the better...
     
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    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    The Telegraph are reporting that Riyad Mahrez will be leaving Leicester this summer for £30m, reportedly because the only reason he stuck around this season is because of a "gentleman's agreement" - a "gentleman's agreement" that really paid off when you compare his league stats between last season and this...
    2015-16: 17 goals, 10 assists
    2016-17: 6 goals, 4 assists

    As for the latest players to have the phrase "next Dele Alli" attached to their name, we're linked with Blackpool winger Bright Osayi-Samuel and Ipswich central midfielder Kundai Benyu. Both are nineteen, both are out of contract this summer, and Benyu has announced his intention to leave, so YMMV.
     
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    They also suggest that us and the Goons are interested in signing him.
    And Chelsea. And Marseille. And Barca. And...
     
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  9. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    He has the look of 'Bench Ornament' to me. A Sissoko with skill but less energy.
     
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    So you are telling me that Barcelona are only going to have to pay 30m
    this summer for the most attackingest/bestest MF player ... in the world. Ever. ??

    What a bargain.

    < thick fishy >
     
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    It would depend upon his attitude, for me. It hasn't been great this season.
    Sticking him into the first team would allow us to introduce Son from the bench.
    We've lacked that sort of option at times in this campaign.

    If he'd give 100%, then he'd certainly help when we need to break down stubborn rearguard actions.
    I suspect that he'll be off elsewhere though, as we won't compete with the wages being offered by other sides.
     
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    Mahrez may not have had the best of seasons, but there's a quality player in there. I think he'd be a perfect fit for us, for the same reason you suggest.
    Clearly something was up at Leicester, because as soon as Ranieri was sacked, they all started performing.
    He's proven that he can more than handle the premier league and that's that's the sort of player we should be spending £30m on. Would seem like a bargain after what we spent on Sissoko!
     
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    Maybe we can swap them? <whistle>
     
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    Exactly.

    if he does not want to play for Spurs...he can **** off, loyalty works both ways.

    I just hope we can bend the buying club over for some of their top talent...basically so long as we are a royal pain in the arse during the selling process...im happy.
     
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    I dont think they are equals..but what's the fuss with Walker?

    Walker has been lauded all season by all and sundry..ive been watching him turn out week in week out, playing in our best games, most important games..every week apart from the last few...whats Walker's problem if it is not the money? Just because he is better does not mean he isn't the better arsehole out of the two either, If indeed there is a problem with the management. Doubt anyone thinks Trippier is better.

    Stinky attitudes get stinky responses

    Indeed i may be wrong and Walker couldn't be happier realizing that there is only one team who is better than us and under Poch. Even someone a bit simple like Walker would realize that it takes a team to succeed not a set of expensive names. Surely he sees the way his career has developed since Poch came. So what if the management has upset poor little Walker? What could they have asked him to do? everyone knows hes a RWB and is utilised as such. Its not Poch's fault that Walker doesn't finish off a few more of his opportunities in the other teams area but its certainly Poch's fault that he has become part of the meanest defence in the league for the 2nd year running. So what if Walker disagrees with Poch and has gone into a strop over a tactic in a certain game? Poch has pissed us off a plenty too. To think that might justify a departure will be saluted with a middle finger in Walker's direction from me.

    Walker needs to man up and get on with it or if he goes...i hope Levy rinses whoever he can in the process. I also agree that we should be trying to disrupt the buying teams squad too.
     
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    If that is all it is..then i agree..you need passionate players and players who can make a manager think..we were all thinking the same too. In which case i expect it all to blow over soon enough. However to be stropping about it on the level he has is ridiculous.
     
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    In a refreshing break from reading transfer speculation linking the majority of our first team squad with a move up the M6, completely out of the blue we're linked with Nice midfielder Jean Michael Seri, who the club say can leave for £20m this summer - although we're hardly the only club being linked, not least because the usual Barca, PSG and Arsenalrumours are circulating.

    What's telling for me is that, even though Seri is being compared to N'Golo Kante (because if you're a Ligue 1 central midfielder of West African descent, of course you will...) he does strike me as being a similar type of player to Dembele, albeit with a better eye for the defence-splitting pass - although there is the obvious issue that, as an Ivorian international, he'd be off at the ACoN every couple of years.
     
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  18. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    Stop worrying, don't forget Spurs only sell players who want to leave or who the club/manager don't want.
    This is apparently different to every other club who sell players willy nilly for no reason at all.
    If players leave you this summer it will be because the player, the club or both wanted him to go.
    Who can blame a player for wanting to progress his career at a bigger club or a similar level club with better wages, most of us would do it in our jobs.
     
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  19. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Sixth place blues?
     
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  20. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    The last argument is nonsense imo.
    Pundits and fans often say "well, you'd move jobs if you were going to get double your money so why would footbsllers be any different?"
    For most if not all people a doubling of their wages would make a massive difference in their standard of living.
    In most cases it would mean not having to worry about money which would remove one of the biggest stresses in life.
    The same is simply not true of footballers.
    £70,000 per WEEK is £3,640,000 per year which (over a 5 year contract) is £18.2m.
    This is without any sponsorship deals included.
    The idea that any player needs to move for financial security for them or the family is untrue.
    Its greed ... pure and simple.
    To make it even worse while the players are getting these massive wage virtually all clubs are reluctant to pay the living wage for regular staff.
    The Living wage in London is around £9.60 per hour... £336 per week for a 35 hour week...£17472 per year.
    Now doubling those wages would make a collosal difference to peoples living standards and health.
     
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