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  1. Trumpton Tiger.

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    They had other targets after Bruce walked and spent time pursuing them. The club was also on the brink of being sold and only the PL stepping in prevented the sale going through. Silva applied and was overlooked and I doubt if there is one person on this board who could have named Silva as a potential manager of ours at the time ?
    Phelan struck lucky in his first month and everyone ( barring me) was urging the Allams to give him a contract. Phelan held out for a three year one which was the delay.
    Silva's application was looked at again when it was obvious that Phelan was not the man for the job and every thing was done to bring him and his own staff to City. Are you looking to rubbish the Allams for doing that or just for the way he was recruited ?
     
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  2. Trumpton Tiger.

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    I mention those things because Hull City was being run like a pub team in those days and any comparison with todays owners, who have broke the clubs transfer record several times and delivered on the pitch by achieving Premier League status twice is laughable. Of course not every decision they have made has been popular and relationships with the fans need to improve but I know who I would prefer.
    I also don't see the significance or welcome protests at a time when we are up to our necks in a relegation battle with only three games to go.
     
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  3. The greengrocer

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    You're maybe overlooking the part played by silvas agent? He's the man to thank I believe? " If you give silva the gig you can have x y z players on my books " that's what I heard.
     
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  4. bum_chinned_crab

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    Yes, because Fish was incompetent, out of his depth, not wealthy and had no access to the income streams we enjoy today. Similarly to not breaking the transfer record several times or getting us promoted to the Premier League, he didn't get us £80m in debt. either

    The difference between him and the current regime is the vindictiveness. Fish was rubbish, but I have no doubt that he thought he was doing right and he always tried to have the best interests of the club at heart. On the flipside, Allam corp have done their best to spite the fans and the club at every available opportunity since they didn't get their own way with the name change campaign. And as for protesting during the relegation battle, some us clearly think there are bigger issues than on pitch success. But as long as you get to see nice, shiny Premier League players, eh?
     
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  5. Trumpton Tiger.

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    Of course I'm not overlooking the part played by Silva's agent. But the facts are that the Allams took the gamble. No-one else did and Silva was available to plenty of other clubs along with his agent and the promise of players. They all could have turned out to be journeymen, because no-one knew it they were or not or was willing to give them a contract.
     
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  6. The greengrocer

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    What I'm saying is the agent made it a no brainier for EA! And we'll never know how many managers turned us down because of the bad vibes sent out by the Allams? I think it was more luck than judgment we got MS but I'm not complaining! :emoticon-0137-clapp
     
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  7. Trumpton Tiger.

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    Fish maybe didn't get us into £80m of debt but he plunged us to very depths of bankruptcy on several occasions and our very existence hinged on the mood of the Judge that particular day. That is worse in my view. He also didn't have the ability or the will to generate any money for the club, bar selling players. We were continually broke and robbing peter to pay paul. A proper basket case, unlike today.
    If I wanted to see ' nice shiny Premier League players' I would have tagged onto the shirttails of Man U and the other glory boys a long time ago like many people have in this area. I support Hull City and want to see my club playing at the highest level and I believe that has been the one aim of the club since its formation in 1904. Otherwise what is the point ?
    The name change was a flawed idea and I voted against it. What else can I do ?
    I don't agree with the withdrawing of concessions and if I had my way I would let kids if for nothing, but I don't.
    I'll continue to support the shirt. The regime will eventually change and that change has more chance of becoming a reality if we maintain our PL status.
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

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    What utter bollocks.
     
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    A shirt without the club name on it that you support?
     
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  10. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    Your splitting hairs mate. What can I do about that ? I have one option, don't buy anything with that badge on it, and I don't.
     
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  11. Trumpton Tiger.

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    Explain what is utter bollocks about breaking the club transfer record to bring Mason here and then paying £5m for a goal keeper when we already had three on the books ?
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    The same principal that many are applying over tickets due to the lack of concessions.
     
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  13. bum_chinned_crab

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    No I'm not. How is the name being shunned by the very club itself 'splitting hairs'? The name is the one consistent we have - players, managers, fans, stadia, kits - everything else changes. Not the name.

    And you don't only have one option. You can not attend games so you don't support the despicable regime.
     
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  14. Trumpton Tiger.

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    We are going around in circles here. What was worse then Hull City through the Fish/Chris Needler days ? I was once told by Fish to my face that he doesn't want my kind of support and I was the match ball sponsor ! The crowd that night was less then 2,000 and he was telling me he didn't want my support. FFS. I will always support the shirt and have done through some absolute ****e times and owners. Not everything about this regime is despicable and no regime as far as I can remember has been perfect.
    But I will never stop supporting and it's the fans who remain consistent, nothing else.
     
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    We could have got Zola FFS!!!!
     
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    This is the worst time in history to be a Hull City fan. That's a simple, plain FACT. I had a season ticket under Fish, missed fewer than 10 home games in a decade and was there in our very lowest crowds we ever experienced. Under Allam, I haven't set foot inside our stadium for 4 years.

    And it's a sad reality that fans die.
     
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  17. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    It was definitely down to Silva's persistence rather than Allam's knowledge.
     
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  18. Trumpton Tiger.

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    That's where we differ mate. I also had a season ticket throughout the Fish era and although there was the odd highpoint, like winning away at Brentford and beating Plymouth at home 1-0 with a last minute Andy Mason goal after 11 games without a win the rest of it was pretty rubbish. I don't like getting tonked at home by the likes of Notts County and seeing kids in Hull wearing Man U and Leeds tops and that's what it was like for a couple of generations. These are the best days in the clubs history. And it's your loss if you haven't set foot inside the KC for 4 years because you've missed some epic stuff. Besides, we need all the support we can muster in the stands. The only way you will see a change of regime ( and you will one day) is if we maintain PL status and on Saturday we could do with your support.
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    We started this season with no permanent manager and no team and after a two month transfer window we cobbled together a handful of signings in the last 48 hours, trying to pin the blame for that on Phelan is utter bollocks.
     
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  20. Happy Tiger

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    Erm.

    lol

    What?
     
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