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Dr Steve Pieczenik - Bin Laden + 9/11 (Must See)

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by eddieveeee, Aug 13, 2011.

  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    now back to the footie as half time nearly over
     
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  2. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    You have provided proof of nothing, no facts whatsoever. Just links to the internet.

    The fact that you choose to believe these "facts" says it all.
     
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  3. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    once again for those that missed it


    1-The CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency have concluded that the amount of drug money flowing to the Taliban in Afghanistan is far lower than widely estimated, according to a Senate report.

    2. Al Qaeda's dependence on drug money is even less, according to the report by the staff of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which found that "there is no evidence that any significant amount of the drug proceeds go to Al Qaeda."

    3. In one of its most disconcerting conclusions, the Senate report says the United States contributed to the resurgent drug trade after the Sept. 11 attacks by backing warlords who derived income from the flow of illegal drugs. The CIA and U.S. Special Forces put such warlords on their payroll during the drive to overthrow the Taliban regime in late 2001.

    4. These warlords later traded on their stature as U.S. allies to take senior positions in the new Afghan government, laying the groundwork for the corrupt nexus between drugs and authority that pervades the power structure today," the report says.

    5. Afghan President Hamid Karzai's government has been stained by allegations of corruption and connections to drug trafficking. Still, Karzai is widely expected to be reelected.
     
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  4. BH1972RFC

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    Are you really this thick?

    My point was that the Taliban are dealing in drugs to finance their war effort.

    My point has been proven by the links provided above, 3 separate links (there are many others but they will do to prove my point) which categorically back my statement up.

    What point of that do you not get?

    You're a ****ing clown, an absolute, 100%, braindead mong <ok>
     
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  5. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    so what you are saying is that the UN and the CIA and the Defence Intelligence agency and the Senate Foreign Relations committee got it wrong?

    newspaper excerpts etc taken from the net, or your mates in the know (wink wink) ]
    dont proove shoite
     
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  6. BH1972RFC

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    READ THE ****ING LINKS YOU COMPLETE IMBECILE

    They prove exactly what my statement was.

    There is absolutely no chance that you were a teacher, none at all.

    You're patently a complete ****tard <ok>
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    from the UN

    Afghanistan has a long and troubled history with the opium poppy, beginning in 1979 during the Soviet invasion. This cash crop is used in manufacturing heroin, as well as narcotic pain relievers such as, morphine, oxycodone, and hydrocodone. What began as a means of financing a resistance to the Soviets, grew into a widespread practice of making easy money. This continued until July of 2000, when Taliban leader Mohammed Omar declared the cultivation of opium un-Islamic, and banned production. After the ban, Afghanistan's total production dropped 91% from 82,172 hectares in 2000, to only 7,606 hectares in 2001.

    According to the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime, after the US invasion in 2001, Afghanistan now accounts for 93% of world's total opium production. Production spiked from 7,606 hectares in 2001, to 193,000 hectares in 2007. Helmand province in the south of Afghanistan, an area roughly about the size of West Virginia, now produces 50% of the world's opium alone. The Taliban's ban on farming the opium poppy before the US invasion was so effective, that Helmand province recorded no opium cultivation in the 2001. The previous year it had been the highest producing province, and currently is again.



    When these statistics are combined with news of the Afghan government's involvement and US aid to opium growers, the implications are shocking. In an article for The New York Times, Former U.S. State Department Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs Thomas Schweich reported that Hamid Karzai's government was complicit in protecting opium cultivation in Afghanistan.

    Ahmed Wali Karzai, the brother of Afghanistan's president, has been accused by many of being deeply involved in the opium trade. James Risen of The New York Times wrote an article entitled "Reports Link Karzai's Brother To Afghanistan Heroin Trade", which sheds light on this relationship between Ahmed Karzai and the manufacture of opium and its derivatives. Another report by Dexter Flikins, Mark Mazzetti, and James Risen reveals even more. This article titled "Brother of Afghan Leader Said to Be Paid by C.I.A." reveals ties between Ahmed Karzai and the CIA. There is now information that the CIA has a suspected drug lord on their payroll.


    These last two developments coupled with the following piece of information, makes this situation all the more troubling. In an interview with Fox News personality Geraldo Rivera about opium growers, Lieutenant Colonel Bryan Christmas of the 3/6 Marines, told Mr. Rivera that "we provide them security, we're providing them resources, and we're providing them with alternatives". He does say they are giving them alternatives, but later goes on to admit that there is no incentive for the growers to change crops because the profits from the opium are so high.

    Afghanistan, with it's violent history will probably remain in turmoil for quite a few more years, and opium doesn't appear to be going anywhere either. It just seems a bit odd that after US forces entered Afghanistan, the opium trade has spiked out of control
     
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  8. Toby

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    He claims to have been a maths teacher <yikes>
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    He's a space cadet.
     
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  10. BH1972RFC

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    <laugh>

    You ****ing bellend, your own posting has even proven what I've been arguing which is that the Taliban are involved in the drug business <laugh>

    <laugh>

    Talkabout an own goal of epic proportions <laugh>
     
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  11. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I HAVE READ IT YOU DICKWAD

    and i say again

    I AM GIVING YOU THE EVIDENCE FROM THE PROVERBIAL HORSES MOUTH

    CIA, UN, THE SENATE COMMITTEE, A ****ING LT COL

    you are giving me the times of India FFS

    the early 'assertions' of drug involvement have been PROVEN wrong, by th every dicks who were saying it in the first place

    how ****in stupid are you?

    take your own advice and read
     
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  12. BH1972RFC

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    Teacher my ****ing arse <laugh>

    Not even a secondary school pupil would make such a "schoolboy" **** up.

    Away and fling ****e at the moon ya fud <ok>
     
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  13. BH1972RFC

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  14. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    nothing like taking a bit that suits your own argument is there

    'signifcantly less' as in we lied

    any money going in is as i discussed before 'indirect'

    the taliban are not the growers/distributers as you asserted - in your own words of course
     
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  15. BH1972RFC

    BH1972RFC Guest


    <laugh>

    Yes, and the evidence which YOU provided proved my point you fool <laugh>
     
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  16. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    you missed this bit fookwit

    The Taliban's ban on farming the opium poppy before the US invasion was so effective, that Helmand province recorded no opium cultivation in the 2001. The previous year it had been the highest producing province, and currently is again.
     
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  17. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    what that the usa got it wrong?

    your making yourself look even more stupid,

    out of context only works if the whole thing is not available

    which anyone reading will see

    3/10 for trying tard <ok>
     
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  18. BH1972RFC

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    When have I brought up ANYTHING about what happened to the poppy fields in 2001? That's right, I didn't <doh>

    My point (and you've proven if inadvertently you thick ****) is that the Taliban are involved in the drug dealing business in Afghanistan.

    I note that your link is geared towards 2001...mine are from 2007 onwards so your link is pretty much irrelevant.

    Teacher my arse <laugh>
     
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  19. BH1972RFC

    BH1972RFC Guest

    <laugh><laugh><laugh>

    Hoisted by your own petard
     
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  20. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    BH in dirty hijab syringe offence.
     
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