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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by 2020VisionofLeeds, Apr 18, 2017.

  1. lifecheshirewhite

    lifecheshirewhite Cheese

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    So being friends with murderers is ok as long as it was 30 years ago ?
    The Yorkshire rippers done no wrong for 40 years should we forgive and forget ?
    Israel is complicated,but when if you lose one battle you all get killed,you can take no chances.Hamas and Hezbolleh seek the total destruction of Israel not a peaceful solution.
     
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  2. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    I do have an interest in Corbyn. He's leading the only party - barring some realignment that hasn't happened - that could provide effective opposition. I happen to believe one party states like Britain today are not very good for democracy.

    I can understand you got bored, for me the most condemning stuff is about his inability to lead his own MPs which comes later in the article after all the IRA and Palestinian stuff, if you got bored you may not have read it. Read the Lillian Greenwood link especially the second half (as it's a bit long). I've worked for people like Corbyn, it's virtually impossible. That in itself makes him the wrong person to be where he is and absolutely the wrong person to lead the country.

    Incidentally I was laughing out loud as I listened to radio 4 last night while driving, Dawn Butler was asked by Eddie Mair to tell him Labours policies and she just kept repeating 'it's a rigged system'. I got the distinct impression she was avoiding the question because she was completely in the dark what their policies are. Suspect not her fault, though she did an abysmal job hiding the problem and also managed to come out with the classic that Costa Coffee are avoiding tax (I think she was thinking of the rumpus over Starbucks). A real car crash, I'm prepared to believe she's useless but what are they doing sending out people so ill prepared?
     
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  3. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Total bollocks. <laugh>

    So when the going gets tough............<whistle>
     
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    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    There hasn't been a PM since with a bigger pair of balls. <ok>
     
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    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Came in after Blair's time so was always going to be compared to the war criminal, Brown should never have been anywhere near the levels of power as he was just smoke and mirrors at No.11, time proved the theory that a good No.2 doesn't always make a good PM but he was never a good chancellor.
     
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    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Yes she is and she's 'interned' not buried twice to make sure. <whistle>
     
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    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Maybe that's the point Steve,up north we don't go for Women with balls <yikes> but everyone to their own:grin:
     
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  9. Whitejock

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    Actually that's wholly untrue.

    As a Chancellor, he had no match, and there are very detailed financial metrics available to confirm this. Also remember that the Western World followed his recovery plan after the banking crisis. The yanks even backed out their plan & adopted his. Truly an act of genius. Brown maintained tight control of the national debt under his stewardship too. At the end of his Chancellorship it was £500bn. It's presently £1.85tr - almost quadrupled! That's the tories for you. Although 7 years later they've stopped blaming Labour - they've just stopped talking about it altogether. Ozzy could have done a better job than George!

    As PM, Brown walked into an unprecedented string of crises, the most prominent being the aforementioned banking crisis. I agree that he had communications problems, amongst other things, but the one thing you could say about Blair was that he had the charisma of a con man, and was a tough act to follow in that respect. The press didn't want a dour git & went for his throat. Sad that it never occurred to the redtops that every PM before Blair was a dour bastard, but that's what's required in public politics now, thanks to the redtops. Charisma beats ability, it would seem - and they seem to have conned you too, Steve. :(
     
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    I think Brown was an excellent chancellor, less sure you can defend his time as PM. It is true he came in at the end of a long period of labour rule and chickens do come home to roost, but it was a bit more than he was dour, he was very controlling and the famous bigot episode showed he lacked a feeling for voters fears. Like a lot of very clever people, he believed a little too much in his way being the only way
     
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    Actually agree with what you say, but would posit that your last sentence applies to all of the PMs we've had. And let's not pull Corbyn into this conversation! :D
     
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    So did nero, he fiddles while Rome burned.
     
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    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Not so Jock and not getting into it as we'll never agree on this one as I've said many times before, so best to respectfully agree to disagree. <ok>
     
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    ^^^^^^^^
    Lost the argument.

    Leeds 1- wall 0
     
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    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    <doh>

    Can tell it's been a long season with that feeble effort seeing as Jock liked it. <laugh>
     
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    Really? <laugh>
     
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    Reading the list of non-English cars, I find it very sad. Those are the names I grew up with. Bit like finding out that Stanley Mathews was Irish or that Jimmy Greaves had Italian ancestry.
     
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  20. Chippy / Glory

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    He was enjoying his victory and your tacit admission of it.
    Leeds 2- wall 0
     
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