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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Hoddle is a god, Jan 17, 2016.

  1. FosseFilberto

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    Sevilla, Atletico, West Ham ... no running from deep ... just speed of reaction and cool finishing .... goal against Palace .. yes he did start his run from the half way line after a fine weighted pass from Mahrez ... then turned his man and finished clinically ... Harold would not have scored from there ... Schlupp would have held him up or outpaced him to the through ball. Not knocking Harold - he's a different type of striker ... just making the point that HIAG's "limited" comments are tinged with his usual bias and bitterness ... he'll get over us having won the league one day. <laugh>
     
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    Hat-trick against Man City - doubles against Liverpool in consecutive seasons, double against Arsenal, double against United, scored against Chelsea ... think Spurs are the only team in the top 6 that he hasn't scored against (yet!) <laugh>
     
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  3. BobbyD

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    I think there are strikers that can do it all and strikers who are very good in certain setups. I'm not saying Vardy is a bad striker, i just don't think he's got that all round game to suit a big side. He's quick, aggressive and when he's confident, he's deadly (earlier in the season he couldn't hit a barn door, or hold it up, or do anything useful). At the moment, he suits this counter attacking side and he's great at stretching the opposition.

    Stick him in Arsenal and he'd probably struggle as Arsene seems intent on passing the ball sideways and allowing a defence to crowd players out the box.

    However to compare him to the like of Griezman who can do everything vardy can and more or to Kane who has shown that all round ability (and has done it longer) is laughable personally when he hasn't even shown he's significantly better in my opinion.

    How do you feel about a striker like Darren Bent who i think we can agree wasn't world class or even close to but just a very good striker. The man has great stats over many years for "smaller" clubs.
     
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  4. If the top teams had a choice between Kane or Vardy, who do you think they would choose, and why?
     
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  5. FosseFilberto

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    Twatfish

    ... back to the usual bollocks I see ... symptomatic whenever he is getting shown up in regard to his armchair constrained lack of footballing knowledge... thought you'd turned over a new leaf Quentin?
     
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  6. Ah, that's a shame.

    You take one beating in an argument and suddenly you revert to type.

    I had hoped that we'd got beyond all that. Seems not.
     
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  7. JohnTheFox

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    I'm not saying Vardy is world class by any means but not far behind in terms of his pure finishing ability.

    You are correct about styles, works both ways, put Kane into our system and he probably would struggle (well he did when he was on loan although I appreciate he was only young then).

    I do think Vardy is pretty unique though. Not just his style of play but his all round game, background etc. He's been part of everything good for the last 5 years at the club and is Mr Leicester. He's the kind other fans hate but we love him and I'd be gutted if he left. I always laugh when I see the photo of him and Kane sitting on our bench as we lost in the play offs and think wtf were we doing!
     
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    What I hope now is that all the social media trolls will move on and forget about us and leave supporting us to the fans. Being in the media eye has gained many genuine followers and well wishes but so many trolls especially after Claudio-gate. Hopefully now they'll wake up and find the next thing to hate in their miserable lives
     
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  9. LeicesterWizard

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    About as believable as Kane being a replacement for Messi,Suarez or Neymar <ok>

    They suit his style is what im saying, they are a very counter attacking side and that plays right into Vardys hands.
     
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    They would choose Kane.

    Kane would be better for the big clubs but Vardy would be better against the big clubs.
     
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  11. <laugh>
    Top reply!
     
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  12. Bodinki

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    Kane, easily, if not only because he is only 23 and has yet to hit his peak where as, at 30, Vardy has 2 years at the top level at most.
     
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    haha i responded to you but didn't mean it as necessarily to what you have wrote. It was more fossi and whoever liked him to Griezman.

    It's understandable you guys will love Vardy as he's scored many a goal for you and was one of the key figures to lead you to a title and help you up the divisions. No one is criticising you guys for liking the guy as a leicester fan (just like arse fans like wilshit the gobby little cant and us chelsea fans like/love depending on who you are John Terry).
     
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    Do people genuinely think he's a one trick pony? <laugh>

    He's one of the best finishers in the game. Give him a chance and he takes it. I'd wager that he's got the best shot on target to goal ratio in the league.


    Kane. Because he's 7 years younger.
     
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    Harry Kane has shown that all round ability? - not scored at a major tournament either for the U21s (when England were firm favourites) or at full international level and has a distinct lack of pace ... next you'll be telling us that he would displace Neymar, Suarez or Messi at Barcelona<laugh> ... strike that - you have exhibited some knowledge of football .. <whistle>

    Harry Kane's goals have fired his team to the title?

    I haven't compared Vardy to Greizmann ... but they do seem to share a work ethic and the ability to run at defences to great effect ... as Greizmann did for the penalty that shouldn't have been awarded <grr>

    As for Darren Bent ... good striker .. and his acheivements in the game are a fair reflection of his ability ... Vardy has had two full seasons at this level and might well get 20 goals this season plus having fired his club to the title last ... he's also scored against excellent opposition in the UCL and against 3 of the top European sides for his country ... again I think that's a fair reflection of his abilityy. I'm also not aware that Darren holds (or has ever held) the all time, consecutive game, goal scoring record for the Premier league? ... remind me again ... who does?

    As for playing for Arsenal ... the passes that Ozil and Sanchez are capable of would have given Vardy a frightening number of goal scoring opportunities ... and when he is in the groove the ball tends to reside firmly in the opposition net.
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    And better.
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Vardy's a good striker, I genuinely like him as a player and he's one of the Prem's better strikers but Kane beats him in every attribute other than pace.
     
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    And chin
     
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    Thanks for that, i will take that as a complement.

    He's smashed it in the 1 full season he had (i would argue he failed in the half season before). He's also failed this 1st half of the season although he's been smashing it again recently, he still lags behind the following in goals :

    Romelu Lukaku
    Harry Kane
    Alexis Sánchez
    Sergio Agüero
    Diego Costa
    Zlatan Ibrahimovic
    Dele Alli
    Jermain Defoe
    Eden Hazard
    Joshua King
    Sadio Mané
    Christian Benteke
    Son Heung-Min

    I wouldn't say he's had 2 full seasons of consistency. He's done brilliantly to score against the big teams, but he was atrocious in the group stages where he didn't score in a single goal to help you qualify for the knockouts.

    This is why i wouldn't put him in the upper echelon in strikers YET and i think most professional managers think this too in that only Wenger put out for him over the summer with a 20 odd million offer, something he was more than happy to spunk on Xhaka, Mushtafi and a few million less for Perez who he has permanantly benched.

    This won't take away his legend status from Leicester though.
     
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    Didn't particularly liken him to Griezman, it was more the fact he would be a good replacement if Griezman moves in the summer, but if you'd like a comparison ...

    Griezman, a player that likes to break at pace into areas of the pitch behind the last defender to go 1on1 with the keeper or win a penalty and is still willing to come back and defend deep when they are under pressure, only to bomb forward when they win the ball. Playing for a team that gives the opposition a majority of the possession, defend stoutly and play on the counter attack... tell again how that isn't like Vardy :emoticon-0112-wonde

    I havn't seen any other side anywhere near as suited to Vardys talents than Athletico.
     
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