And I will still be winning it.and this argument will still be running.![]()

And I will still be winning it.and this argument will still be running.![]()

My wife is disabled. She has MS & struggles to walk with her stick & has speech problems. At her assessment (made more vigorous by the tories), she was asked to stand for 30 seconds, and from this they rejected her claim, saying she has no problems with her speech & could walk 200m unaided, as she proved daily in her job as a teacher! She retired 3 years prior to the assessment. Made a strong enough story to reject her case, though. Complete pack of lies. Like anything the tories touch.My parents are both disabled,and they get very good benefits,they are not means tested on it and can save enough out of it to cruise around the world if they like.
offshore dependants will be sorted in 2 years time![]()
Not clutching at straws. Took the trouble to re-read the thread, & even gave you post numbers where you said the thin you deny saying. Short of coming down to yours & shoving your face in the screen to read it, I don't know what else I can do. Guess the tories have taught you to read too - i.e. you miss out the bits that incriminate you.Clutching straws again m8,talking general benefits as you now know full well,you lost game set and match.just man up and admit you got it wrong and I never said I'm only talking offshore dependants.![]()
Education for Jocks,the plesure was all mine your welcome.Not clutching at straws. Took the trouble to re-read the thread, & even gave you post numbers where you said the thin you deny saying. Short of coming down to yours & shoving your face in the screen to read it, I don't know what else I can do. Guess the tories have taught you to read too - i.e. you miss out the bits that incriminate you.
Anyhoos, I'm off to bed. Nice of you to tell me a fairytale before I go to sleep. Been over 50 years since someone's done that for me. Thanks, grandad.![]()

Go back and appeal,you will probably win.That's the way it works.sure you already know that,if not see your local Tory MP they will sort itMy wife is disabled. She has MS & struggles to walk with her stick & has speech problems. At her assessment (made more vigorous by the tories), she was asked to stand for 30 seconds, and from this they rejected her claim, saying she has no problems with her speech & could walk 200m unaided, as she proved daily in her job as a teacher! She retired 3 years prior to the assessment. Made a strong enough story to reject her case, though. Complete pack of lies. Like anything the tories touch.
Good luck with your offshore dependants. 2 eons perhaps.
Can you dig a coffin sized hole in your back garden ?Even i can see this ^^^^^^^ aint going to end well.
Can you dig a coffin sized hole in your back garden ?
Go back and appeal,you will probably win.That's the way it works.sure you already know that,if not see your local Tory MP they will sort itYou must log in or register to see images
Just for him,he don't understand English,its like debating with ManuelNo for one that would fit you or wj, and certainly not one for both of you when you both slug it out till the death.
Just incase Glory missed the first postPut channel 4 on and watch any of the "....on benefits" programs. It will make your blood boil. They are all fat and well fed, they all have mobile phones, many are sitting playing console games they don't go to work yet their homes are filthy **** holes, pure lazy, that is what is wrong with most of them.
Agreed there are thousands deserving but whilst we have many more thousands milking and cheating the system it will be impossible to cure.

My Brother in law has mental health problems,every time they asses him they fail him,he appeals and wins every time.Not a good system but seems to be the way it works.Even i am shocked that you cant see what is so wrong about ATOS.
st ofPut channel 4 on and watch any of the "....on benefits" programs. It will make your blood boil. They are all fat and well fed, they all have mobile phones, many are sitting playing console games they don't go to work yet their homes are filthy **** holes, pure lazy, that is what is wrong with most of them.
Agreed there are thousands deserving but whilst we have many more thousands milking and cheating the system it will be impossible to cure.
Put channel 4 on and watch any of the "....on benefits" programs. It will make your blood boil. They are all fat and well fed, they all have mobile phones, many are sitting playing console games they don't go to work yet their homes are filthy **** holes, pure lazy, that is what is wrong with most of them.
Agreed there are thousands deserving but whilst we have many more thousands milking and cheating the system it will be impossible to cure.

The same here Jock with my Conservative vote making no difference in a safe Labour seat in Lewisham West.
Don't know for sure without checking but I imagine that that's a safe Tory seat in Wetherby?![]()
Not surprising if you've been canvassing for them.MY SEAT WILL BE CLOSE, LAST ELECTION TORY 59%, THEN UKIP 15%, I THINK ITS PRIME LEFTIE TERRITORY

Not surprising if you've been canvassing for them.![]()
Yes well I wouldn't be voting Tory if that evil bitch,was still around,so another reason to want out.So you're a confused Tory.Old age has a lot to answer for ay.I'm not a leftie
You're the one who has never voted Tory before, I have, many times - going back to the evil Thatch
I'm just someone who thinks its important to be in the single market. That was Thatchers view too, by the way.
Yes well I wouldn't be voting Tory if that evil bitch,was still around,so another reason to want out.So you're a confused Tory.Old age has a lot to answer for ay.