Hoooooooooooooo, I'm a tosser, amazing what your negative opinions are of a person who's aired his opinions. By the way, how long did you play goalkeeper for? I might have to ask Elland if everyone on this forum are allowed to air their views and opinions, without malice, cos either I'm confused, or you and one or two others are confused; and I'd hate for you to be confused Wakey......
As always I respect your views Olof.... It was a game of if's and buts, as these type of games mostly are, and as I mentioned previously, if it wasn't for Woods late equaliser we could've lost the game because of a basic keeper error. I agree Green's made some good saves throughout the season. From an ex keepers point of view, a keeper can play a blinder throughout the game, but one basic mistake that leads to a goal can lose the match, and we're at the crucial end of the season. I remember Sprake playing good games, but also making basic mistakes which resulted in goals. Thing about being a keeper is, there is no one behind you to mop up, which is why keepers need to be fully focused for the whole game, decisions, reflexes and positioning needs to be spot on as one keeper error can lose a match, and it nearly did for us. I'm well aware that one or two on here are going to attack me for any comments I make about Green, that's just normal service resumed, but Green is an ex England keeper, he's supposed to be very experienced, he should know what the basic rules are for a keeper. These kind of basic mistakes can go towards us not getting through the playoff finals, and/or getting promoted........
Where to start? First of all, if I watch on frame by frame, there is no commentary to listen to. Obvious, & makes me wonder if you did watch it frame by frame. Academic anyway, as the commentator has as many FA coaching badges as I have. He has a real-time opinion, not the benefit of a frame by frame analysis. When Green started to come out, the line of players was at the 15 yd mark. They were at the 12 yd mark when changed direction. He had only came out to the 5 yard mark, so most certainly was not 'all at sea'. Far from it! He did not 'backpedal', as he didn't return from whence he came. He correctly covered the post at the right angle, as the ball had gone out wide. You must surely agree that this is correct & commendable. Then the ball is lobbed over his head by the unmarked attacker & it's our defence that is all at sea. 2 CBs & a DM on a single attacker, and the attacker wins! I'm not going to respond to the following comments, as I believe they're a load of pish, based on the rebuttal detailed above. Flash Gordon couldn't have moved at the pace you expected Green to move at. "The ball was crossed and the Newc player headed from the corner of Greens 6 yard box, Green had time and could've easily caught or punched that ball if he stayed committed, but because he hesitated, changed his mind and back pedalled the newc player was allowed to head the ball back across the goal resulting in a goal. He also had time to go for the ball while the ball was floating across after the header, look how close to the ball Green is, but he's flat footed and ball watching, instead he ended up side pedalling and a goal was scored". Try looking at it frame by frame. I've looked at 2 different sets of highlights now, which present different angles. There is no doubt in my mind. And remember, I'm the one who's been criticising Green for most of the season. Of late, he has been nothing short of brilliant for us, and I cannot recall a mistake from him. And how many keepers get to make 37 saves in a game?
So you have to have played in goal to know whether a 'keeper has performed correctly or not? Pish! When I'm at ER, I know exactly what a player should be doing, the pass he should make, when to have a shot, header etc. I'm a stand-side expert and correct, most of the time, going by the comments of my peers who surround me. But bugger me, put me in the middle of the park & I wouldn't know where to start. Just because i can't play doesn't mean I don't know the theory. I'm also saying is that you do not need to have played in a specialist position to assess a player in that position. If you truly believe that, then why have you embarrassed yourself so often in incorrectly describing Wood's play? That's what Wakey's getting at. At least be consistent.
From keeper to Wood, not a bad body swerve Jocky boy, but not part of the subject, please try and stay on same page. For the record, I haven't embarrassed myself by incorrectly describing Woods play, that's your opinion, I gave my opinion, just like you did with Greens mistake. Calling me a tosser isn't what you described as "what Wakey was getting at" "I'm also saying is that you do not need to have played in a specialist position to assess a player in that position". In that case you would know what the basic rules are for a keeper Jock, you tried to ram that down my throat once before about basic text book goal keeping, or have you changed your mind. Theory is one thing, actually putting it into practice is another, as you well know Jock being a stand-side expert.......
Once again, you're quite wrong. No body swerve whatsoever. Intended or otherwise. You insist that no-one knows better than you about goalkeeping skills, as you have played in that position, which in your world seems to give you the authoritative last word. Yet you directly contradict this by refuting the opinion of people who have played in other specialist positions. That is why I mentioned Wood & you know it. Either you accept the expert assessments of people who have played in that position, or you drop your 'have you played in goal' nonsense. You can't have it both ways. Btw, you have consistently criticised Wood throughout his time with us, making ludicrous statements about him, including his 'accidentally scoring' as legend now has it. Your remarks about him have made you a figure of fun. Embarrassingly so, but not in your eyes - only everyone else's. Finally, I notice that you have completely avoided my detailed assessment of the goal. Please give me the benefit of your enormous goalkeeping experience and specify where my eyes have deceived me.
Leeds lover please dont set elland on me.i have a phobia about estate agents.every time i see one i start to tremble.whitejock has challenged you and you failed miserably .once again only answering part of it is no answer at all. Come on tell us all your opinion on wood . His allround play has improved a lot.take a look at him now compared to last season.oh and how are the pancakes coming along.
Leeds Lover you are an embarrassment........will you finally admit that you don't go to games because it's 99% certain you'd getting a good hiding?
He would still be ok with most of us from here. I now think is playing pantomime villain, perhaps a little too well. There isnt a player alive that ever played a perfect game ( one that would stand the scrutiny of frame by frame analysis). If Green and wood were anywhere near the standards of LL then we couldnt afford them. If he came to a game or two he might see performances in context and not through a prism. I am a bit pissed off, I have to work hard to provide fresh bait on a myriad of subjects yet LL just keeps casting the same worm and gets a bite or three every time.
I don't think many people would blame Green for the Newcastle goal. Don't you think you are being hypercritical when you say he made some mistakes. "he made a decision to come out then changed his mind". " He could have punched the ball to prevent the cross" "he could have caught the ball from the headed cross". If you could have prevented any of those " mistakes" you must have been some goalkeeper.
Morning troops. Its arguable as to whether or not Newcastle's goal was in any way Green's fault. To be honest, even if he was at least slightly to blame, he certainly made up for it with several game changing saves throughout the match. I take the view Green's involvement in Newcastle's goal was more than credited by all his saves. We go a point away against a side likely to go up possibly as champions. That's really all that matters. All I hope for is that Jansson is able to play in all of our remaining fixtures, and is then able to play in all the playoff matches. We will certainly need him
