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Dr Steve Pieczenik - Bin Laden + 9/11 (Must See)

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by eddieveeee, Aug 13, 2011.

  1. BH1972RFC

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    Go on then, "Rambo", enlighten us about your first hand experience of Afghanistan...can't wait for this one <laugh>
     
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  2. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    tbh i dont know about the 10 years bit, guess we never will

    But if you listen to/ read media from around the world, there were quite a few stating certin things we dont hear over here

    Eg the taliban being involved in 9/11 has never been accepted
    its common knowledge that the taliban had eradicated the drugs, and the assertion that they are involved in the drug trade is laughed at. In fact karzai's brother is the biggest dealer in afghanistan and its is the allied forces protecting the poppy fields

    Also remember yvonne ridley, award winning journalist who was captured by th etaliban?
    she converted to islam and lectures, you should listen to her
     
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  3. Null

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    <laugh>
     
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  4. BH1972RFC

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    This...but he has been good for a laugh <ok>
     
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  5. DevAdvocate

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    [video=youtube;McM7ArVW_3E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McM7ArVW_3E&feature=fvst[/video]

    And stop watching pish like this.
     
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  6. thefanwithnoname

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    hmm so Iraq wasnt invaded under the pretext of WMD's?

    and the taliban were involved in 9/11?
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    been there before the troubles

    and was there in the late 70's when the hoo haa with russia

    for the rest read my three points earlier <ok>
     
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    This is a god awful documentary...
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

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    I have never heard anyone say the Taliban had anything to do with 9/11. They were protecting Bin Laden and the Yanks did not much care for that.

    It's that simple.
     
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  10. thefanwithnoname

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    i think your just being a pretentious and maybe facetious prick now

    there is no conspiracy theory with what i have said

    the 2 wars are illegal and were started under false pretences
    once the gears of war are in motion, the propaganda to justify kicks in

    the military are like guard dogs, they do as they are told
     
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  11. eddieveeee

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    That was the whole point in my posting the videos, the original videos on page 1. Anything I say can easily be fobbed off. But the credentials of Dr Steve Pieczenik, who served at the top of the last 4 administrations, cannot be questioned. The Tom Clancy character Jack Ryan was based on this guy. Evidence just does not come more damming than from this guys mouth, if you would just give him 10 minutes of your time and then come and speak to me.
     
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  12. BH1972RFC

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    Laughed at? Really?

    Perhaps you can tell the 2 lads from Scotland Yard who work in the office 3 doors up from me this. All the recoveries on their shelves must be just innocent looking medicines <laugh>

    They trade the drugs in order to finance their weapons procurement, mostly to dealers in Pakistan.

    Seriously, give up you roaster, you haven't got a ****ing clue <ok>
     
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  13. Medro

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    Should listen to someone who suffered from Stockholm syndrome?

    So if the Taliban ruled Afghanistan, did they know about the huge ammounts of cash involved with the poppy fields?
     
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  14. thefanwithnoname

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    BH did and that was who i was discussing/debating/arguing with

    you just jumped in

    As for the protecting, it is public record that the taliban were prepared to hand him over to a tribunal if the case against him was proved

    It hasnt/wasnt
     
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    2 things

    1 the taliban never ruled ALL of afghanistan
    2 poppy production was at an all time low under the taliban, and production went up 300% when the forces caused them to flee

    FACTS
     
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    Armies normally do don't they? Otherwise they would be pretty ineffective.

    I personall really don't care what reasons we are in Afghanistan for, but as far as I can see and as far as I am aware very few on the Talib are "Pashtun" as was stated on your previous posts. Someone's lying in the whole affair and I doubt that the Taliban are wholly innocent or as benign as you seem to believe.

    What are you going to do about it if what you say is true?

    Nothing.
     
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    it is well documented that the taliban had no time for drugs and burnt the poppy fields

    Hard as it is to accept money was not their motivating factor
     
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    Can you show me evidence of this 500,000 civilians dead figure you speak about?

    And also answer that if Bin Laden died 10 years ago, how come none of his supporters, allies or enemies mentioned this?
     
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  19. eddieveeee

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    Medro, your like a 5yo trying to get into a grown ups conversation. Give it a rest, you are completely clueless on the subject and 2 minutes here and there on google between posts is not going to get you anywhere. I have spent hundreds of hours researching the events of 9/11 and what followed.

    It is common knowledge that the taliban have heavily cut down production of poppey fields, the signs are there in the ground. It is the CIA who run the global drug trade, the multi billion dollar trade, its one of the main reasons along with the oil pipeline from the caspian sea(to control the flow of oil to china and russia) why they invaded Afganistan.

    Medro, you are completely out of your depth here, even more so than BH

    For christs sake, there is a bombproof doctor trying to tell you what its all about in the first videos I posted if you would just listen to the guy for 10 minutes...ffs
     
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  20. DevAdvocate

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    If you believe the Taliban would have ever handed him over then you are living in a fantasy world.
     
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