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  1. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    That's disgusting mate, I hope she is okay.

    I would say it's suprising, but I work in the NHS and quite frankly, the lack of communication between departments is appalling a lot of the time.

    Have you made a complaint to the hospital?

    More than instances Fran, happens MUCH more reguarly than you realise...
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    This happens a lot more than people realise too... disgusting.
     
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  3. VVD

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    Unbelievable, leaves you at a loss for words. How they got him out unhurt and her with only minor injuries is frankly amazing.
     
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  4. saintrichie123

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    Lady Luck was certainly looking after them that day.
     
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  5. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    In the account I read, a rescuer said she never even asked after her son. I would suggest she shouldn't be left in sole care of him for quite a while. .
     
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    "Hey, Petrov, whatever happened to those gold bars we took from Iraq? "

    Oh, yeah I'd forgotten about those. *shrug* probably lying about somewhere. By the way I sold that tank the army let us keep for some reason on ebay for 30k."

    Sweet, did you remember to remove the all the live ammunition first?"

    Ah ****, I knew there was something I was meant to take out of that thing"
     
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  7. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    The crazy thing is that while everything you say is true, the NHS actually pays private nursing homes to take patients it wants to get shot of off their hands. Taxpayers will be pleased to know that the cash-strapped NHS forks out around £800 - £1200 per week per patient to private, profit-making businesses so that beds can be freed up if the patient is elderly and still needs nursing care.

    The even crazier thing is that one of the reasons there is so much pressure on hospitals to free up beds is that people go to A&E because it's easier than getting a GP appointment, or because they are too drunk or drugged or fat or suffering from cardio-thoracic disease from smoking ***s because no one has ever told them how to look after themselves properly or because they knew all the risks and carried on anyway. I agree entirely about the need for joined-up thinking, but it needs to start in schools, making sure that children are educated in healthy lifestyle choices and keeping themselves fit and active. The "sugar tax" should be made punitive so that obesity in children becomes a distant memory. Smoking cigarettes anywhere should be made socially unacceptable, while drinking alcohol should be something people do for recreation rather than through habit. All Class A and B drugs, conversely, should be legalised but controlled, with the huge amounts of money currently spent on law enforcement diverted to lifestyle education.

    Then hospitals could become places where people who are unlucky enough to fall ill through no fault of their own can remain long enough to be completely healed.

    Rant just starting...
     
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  8. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Utterly, utterly brilliant post <applause>

    Could go on with this all night but probably shouldn't!
     
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  9. davecg69

    davecg69 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, TSS and that's why I'm a bit worried about making a formal complaint as the ward staff were amazing and the doctors great, but (according to the ward sister - and I have to assume she's telling the truth) she and the doctor were told that someone would contact us. I don't want the ward getting the aggro. But I will speak with someone about it.
    She's recovering pretty well, thanks and now the care package has kicked in, it looks like everything is being sorted out. It's just so disappointing that one call could have fixed all of it
     
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  10. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    With your last sentence that's the disappointing part that it's such a simple thing. Mistakes like that should not happen full stop.

    As for making a complaint then I doubt the ward staff will get the blame as it sounds like the social work team who made the **** up.

    Will you send you the best number to make a complaint on via pm if you like?
     
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    davecg69 Well-Known Member

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    If you could LL, that would be appreciated! Cheers.
     
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  12. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Agreed, but there you take us into a whole extended ball game. Root and branch, etc... Under funded and ill thought out. The people on the ground can only do what they do to the best of their ability.
    For example, I'm sure we both remember the times of the public information films. What happened to them.? That fact that people remember the films mean that the messages they carried were remembered. They were non-political, but were just good advice. Nowadays we call that the advice of the Nanny state. Yet, unfortunately it seems that a lot of us should still be listening, if only they were still there to be seen and heard. SImple messages keeping people informed.
     
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  13. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    People who smoke who go to hospital with chest diseases being told they have to pay for treatment would be a simple message.

    Etc., etc.,
     
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  14. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    See I slightly disagree here.

    Playing devils advocate how much of the duty smokers pay on tobacco products contribute to nhs funding? A large percentage I suspect.

    Obesity is a much bigger drain.
     
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  15. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Well, yes. Maybe that sort of thing could be introduced over time. Then again, does the average [tory] government want that citizen to give up smoking when there is so much revenue to be had out of the smoker, and more often than not, little or no pension payout. Sounds cynical.?
     
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  16. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Snap... sort of <laugh>
     
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  17. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    You forgot to add,... 'but true'. ;)
     
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  18. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Done <ok>
     
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  19. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    It's a very complex and emotive subject, but self inflicted illnesses I feel should and will always be covered by the NHS.

    I see both sides, as a non smoker (all my life) and someone who has never been obese, should my taxes go to those who decide to smoke and eat their way to a hospital? Well actually yes. Just like if I happen to fall over drunk (quite possible!) or get an unexpected illness, I expect the NHS to be there for me. It cuts both ways as Gloria Estefan sung once.

    However, long term (i.e. never ever, ever, ever worked) unemployed....don't get me started...not talking about NHS (as it should be for all), but benefits. That is where we need to smarten up.

    (ducks down waiting for the barrage of abuse)
     
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  20. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    the problem with the well known FACT that smoking causes lung cancer is that in the last century the smokers that died from lung cancer also worked in coal mines full of coal dust, factories full of asbestos dust, in fact work places full of god knows what floating in the air without protection. No-one will tell you my Uncle Ernie lived to 97 and was a smoker. Fake news wasn't invented in 2016!
     
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