Why do you need more information? You can't comprehend what went on in those days. Different times. Hope you come to terms with the scenes you witnessed in 2002 one day. Can you recall how many people were actually injured in these scenes that caused you so much distress and sleepless nights?
Certain stadia? Any more like. No doubt Sterling would have negotiated a peaceful resources, union and everyone would have shared a pint before waving each other goodbye with promises to meet up again in the return fixture.
Because I want to know. It's what you do when you don't know about something. If you aren't going to tell me and continue to be condescending, I'll just ask somebody else. Can't comprehend? It's hardly rocket science, when I said you come across like a total dickhead, it's posts like this I'm referring to. And I didn't see many injured people. Lots of people acting like ****s, but not many injuries.
So basically, if you went away to watch City in the 70s and 80s, you had to clash with opposition fans? Is that because they came looking for the away fans? Was any of it predetermined?
You could be a Psycho and not a hooligan,you just had to show some pride and passion in supporting the club,which had been sadly lacking for a few years,we'd become a bit of a joke club and we wanted that to change,and it did.the whole thing came to an end 80/81 when the casual scene exploded and the running of coaches/vans etc was handed over to somebody new,the Psycho's time had come to an end.we'd set out to do something,and acheived it,the fact that the name comes up frequently almost 40 years late fills me with pride,except when that prick dyer uses it.
City Psychos in Holland August 2nd 1979,quite possibly the first City Fan arrested overseas.Dutch ob very friendly though
Reception committees were de rigeur at all league grounds except York, Orient and Notts County from memory.
So you had a meltdown over not very much.Good job you weren't at the Battle of the Boulevard when over 70 people were taken to hospital following a brick throwing exchange. Something airbrushed from the HDM'S memory bank, though they did recall on one if those reminiscences about what had happened on a certain date the 15th anniversary of 3 people being elected against Grimsby.
At some grounds,yes,others no,very different times back then,you just could'nt avoid it at certain grounds,but you knew that before you went(usually).i certainly have no regrets.
Orient was tasty on one occasion back in about 1971/1972. Down to West Ham being away. No back window in the bus after they bricked it.. A brush was left on the bus by the folks who cleaned up. My mate used it to detach a bag full of their equivalent of the Green Mail from the grasp of a poor paper lad who drew up alongside at a traffic light.
After the RL on the Friday, trouble in town in Centre Bar and at City v promo chasing Hudds the next day, and then trouble at Rotherham on the Monday night (they were already promoted, we were already relegated).
It really was a different time, it didn't matter if you traveled with the Psycho's, Simon Gray, Conner and Graham, The OSC. trouble would often find you. How serious the violence varied on many factors. One place I remember well was Millmoor, the home fans left a bit early to get up onto a railway embankment from where they could rain rocks down onto the visiting fans as they left the ground, didn't matter how you got there hooligan or not everyone met the same fate. ( bit like Lokeren in a way ) And just to balance things up a bit, more than one bus lost its windows leaving Hull on Boothferry Rd. Predetermined? only by knowing **** was more than likely going to happen whether you wanted it or not. Having said all that it has dawned on me that there was a way to avoid trouble, and that was to go away with no colours, sit in the best seats and be quiet which brings us nicely back to why the Psycho's were formed.
As per the photo on this thread, we got relegated from div 2 in 1978 at Brisbane Rd. Not many went. Bus went through north London and passed by some bus stops with several hundred Sperz there, vs were flicked, all well and good, then the lights turned red and the bombardment started. Decent folk at Brisbane road though.
In the 70's and 80's and for some of us the late 60's you didn't have to clash with opposition at away games but it was almost unavoidable. Fans wore colours in those days, there was no ground separation, no CCTV, no under cover operations or infiltration from the police, also City usually took a lot less away then we do today. I don't believe it was predetermined either. Away games were very edgy and you had to have your wits about you all day. Lads of a certain age did clash, some looked for trouble, some tried to avoid it but the danger was around every corner. It's what young lads did in those days at football. At every ground, at every club and the behaviour was copied by other sports too probably because it was the same people doing it. I'm talking of teenagers and young men although I do know of the fathers of these people running the gauntlet at some grounds if they liked it or not. That's what football was then. Why did teddy boys cause mayhem in the 50's ? Why did mods and rockers clash at seaside towns in the 60's ? Why did skinheads clash with rockers and anyone else they could argue with in the 70's ? It's what young men/boys did then. Today they can do most of that in their bedrooms on a games console.
The police were also a lairy firm, unpredictable and a law unto themselves. No rule book at all then. Happy to see your transport get attacked, and stand back when trouble started. Happy to truncheon everyone or nobody depending on how they felt. They felt no obligation to football supporters at all.