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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    If he'll come then we should get him. just imagine the dressing room reacting to that signing. The competition for places just steps it up to a another level.

    However, we need a pacy striker. If we can get that...
     
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  2. Take your points but I would suggest:
    1. We weren't necessarily as positive about Eriksen 4 or 5 months ago when his contributions were limited (by his standards) to say the least.
    2. There has to be a significant doubt over Lamela
    3. We need to offload at least 3 of the 4 listed...... Sissoko and Onomah plus one other.
    4. Alli can play either as AM or F, but don't think we would say the same for Sonny.
    4. Bringing in Isco would be making a statement of intent. He is a step up - provided he brought the right attitude and approach to fit into the Poch Spurs ethos. He does seem to show this when he plays for Los Ladrones....

    But I wouldn't die in a ditch if we didn't get him. And by the sound of it I'd better stop mentioning him or I will die in a ditch courtesy of the RDBD!! <yikes>
     
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  3. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Disagree with writing Onomah off, he's only going to be turning 20 this month and thanks to the stupid Sissoko transfer, I think he's been the unluckiest casualty of the useless Frenchman's inclusion in squads.

    Onomah would've contributed no less than Sissoko this season if he had similar game time, in fact he even has a goal to his name, something the £30m flop hasn't, and only one less assist in nearly a third of the time on the pitch.

    He's a talented lad who's just yet to find that real confidence of bringing in his form from youths to the first team on a consistent basis, give him time and I genuinely believe he'll come good.

    Kane didn't truly establish himself until he was roughly 21, Winks established himself this season at 20-21, Mason was a much later bloomer at 23, some players just develop at different rates.

    Poch and Levy wouldn't have sanctioned 3 contract deals over the past 18 or so months if they didn't think Onomah was one for the future for us.
     
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  4. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I'd get rid of the summer arrivals (excluding Big Vic of course).

    Sissoko was never needed and his signing has shown that. He won't need replacing.

    There was so much fuss over Nkoudou prior to signing him yet if we knew the impact (or lack of I should say) he would've made this season then we would've just told Marseille they can keep him. He won't need to be replaced either.

    Janssen hasn't impressed one bit other than a bit of solid hold up play and graft. A £17m striker should score more than one goal from open play, simple as that, his miss against Watford thoroughly summed up his season. Reports today have linked us with Andre Gray, I'd love to see that happen, maybe we could even throw Janssen into the deal for him.

    Unfortunately I also think Wimmer will be gone, it's been tough for him, after such a promising first season he's barely played this campaign and when he has he hasn't looked too great which is kind of understandable when you're only playing once a month (if that). So if that's the case we'll need another CB, unless we bring in Sessegnon and therefore throw Davies into the LCB position, where he's played for Wales on numerous occasions. I'd probably look at getting another CB anyway, either someone from a bottom half team who'll understand their position as a back up player (Harry Maguire?) or an ageing CB who'll have the same role but be able to pass on knowledge and experience to others.
     
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  5. Blue and White

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    The only player from the current squad that I would happily see leave is of course Sissoko.

    All the others deserve more chances-especially as they are squad players and you would be stretched to find much better quality to sit on the bench.
    In addition , if we replace Sissoko with quality, then that might mean someone else being moved to the bench. Who would that be? Son? And , if Lamella makes it back, he would also be seen as a bench player.
    I think what I am saying is that at present we have a very good first team when everyone is fit and there are not a lot of available players who could walk into our team.
     
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  6. The RDBD

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    Unless there is a ditch beside your feet, you will be dead long before
    you reach a ditch.
     
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  7. ****!! <yikes>
     
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  8. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    Isco will go to the Goons if to a PL club.

    Get real Madrid cannot deal with having been Levyed, and just like
    with Ozil, the Goons will happily pay the transfer and inflated wage
    fees that help the Madrid books to be balanced.
     
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  9. Think you'll need to push the bar a bit higher to win me over!! <laugh>

    Seriously though, I have seen far too many players come through the Spurs ranks over far too many years and I really don't see Josh converting potential into a realistic first teamer. No offence to the lad and I appreciate his relative youth, but with the level that the current incumbents are achieving, we have less opportunity to indulge late-developers! And so far he hasn't shown enough to warrant further investment. Even with his injury-blighted season, Edwards has already pushed himself to the head of that queue for me!
    But it's a personal opinion - and like arse holes we've all got one!! <laugh>
     
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  11. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Far, far too early re Josh Onomah. The lad's been played in precious few games and is no age. My beef is he really shouldn't be thought of as a first team player yet. He isn't ready but there's time still. If MP trusts him, that's ok by me.
     
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  12. Citizen Kane

    Citizen Kane Danny Rosebud

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    Onomah probably suffers to an extent from making his first team debut at far too early an age. The meteoric rise of Winks and Alli - both similar ages - hasn't helped his cause either. I personally don't see what he brings to the table - strikes me as an inferior version of Alli. But then again, most of us would've happily seen the back of Rose 3 years ago so what do I know <laugh>

    The bigger concern he'll have is that if we are sticking to a system that only uses 2 AM's, his opportunities to impress will be extremely limited as there are currently 4 players vying for those postions who are miles ahead of him in ability and not that far ahead in age. Unless we ditch Nj, Nk and Sissoko AND don't bring in Isco, then Josh has a fighting chance to make an impression.
     
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  13. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Haha, oh yeah course I didn't mean it as Sissoko was the level Josh should look to reach but just merely pointing out that Sissoko's signing has stalled Josh's progression and had Josh been afforded the minutes Sissoko has had, he'd have likely contributed a lot more as like I pointed out in the previous post, with a third of the time on the pitch of Sissoko's, he's managed a goal and two assists, to Sissoko's three assists.

    At 19 (granted, soon to be 20) we shouldn't be expecting Josh to be brilliant right now. Not saying you necessarily but perhaps some Spurs fans think that as Josh isn't at Alli's level right now then he won't make it, which to me is wrong, some players develop at different times and for me personally, as someone who's seen a fair bit of Josh when he was in the youths, he's a genuinely superb talent who I just think lacks confidence at the moment. If you saw the way he dictated games at U21/ U18 level, you'd realise what a special player he could be.

    In regards to Edwards, there's no doubting he's potentially the biggest talent at our club, albeit just potential right now but you see things with him that make you believe he can go on to become a true global star in years to come but that shouldn't make us suddenly say "oh let's just cast Josh aside now because of him", we should be looking at it as "oh **** me, with Edwards AND Onomah coming through, we're blessed for the future in attacking midfield roles".

    Have faith mate, if he gets the right nurturing and opportunities, Onomah will become a massive player for us and England, I really do believe that.
     
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  14. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I'd say he's a first team player in the sense he has business to be in and around the first team but obviously he's not a first team player in the sense of expecting him to be challenging Alli and Eriksen right now, however learning from those two will be vital for his development.

    Although I personally would've liked to have seen more of him this season, maybe Poch is looking to do with Josh what he done with Winksy last year and just primarily have him training and grafting with the team, knowing chances will be extremely limited but comforted by the fact that maybe next season will be a proper breakthrough one for him.
     
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  15. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    Compared to Citeh, United, Chelsea and Arsenal we're light in player numberos. I think we have 20 senior pro's compared to others 25 or more With the best will in the world Josh isn't at that point yet where he can be played in games at any level from kick off and be expected to hit the same level as others (Sissoko apart).

    Very few players are at that level at his age. My concern is that 1 or 2 more injuries and he could have been starting CL games.
     
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  16. Citizen Kane

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    This season only became a breakthrough season for Winks because we got rid of Mason and Bentaleb, shortly followed by moving Dier back to CB, shortly followed by Carroll going in January. Not taking away from an immensely talented player, but it helps no end if the bulk of your competition has been removed from your path to development. I cannot see the same happening with Lamela and Son. They are currently our supporting cast for Alli and Eriksen, and will remain thus for years to come should they chose to stay at the club. Even if we have a car boot sale to get rid of Sissoko and our two apostrophes, I still can't see Josh getting the same amount of time as was afforded to Winks.
     
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  17. Bookmarked for you!! <laugh>

    Listen, no-one would be happier than me to source all our players from home grown links - that is club nirvana!! It's just that we have a limited number of squad spaces and the room to grow is getting compressed by the the day.
    But do you know what? He clearly has Poch in his corner, so maybe i will just take that as confirmation of his potential. Really cannot find anything to doubt him on currently. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    L'Equipe are reporting that Monaco are preparing a £15m bid to sign Tielemans

    LEVY!!!
     
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  19. The RDBD

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    I would say that is in the bag for Monaco if the boy wants to go there.
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    Jan, Toby and Moose all should've done a better job getting in his ear during the last international break.
     
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