Like I said, let's see what happens. Totally agree that the Trust needs to be mindful of challenging their agenda.
For me it is better to at least see if they have improved, and after the first meeting we will have an idea. I like you though are very sceptical.
HCST welcome introduction of ‘Supporters’ Committee’ We are pleased to hear of the introduction of a “Supporters’ Committee” at Hull City AFC, and hope to play a key role in having the voices of Hull City fans heard in the near future. Hull City announced this week that meetings will take place four times a year and will be attended by representatives from various groups. The concept of such a committee was discussed between the Trust and Club representatives back in November, and while it’s a big shame that the club has waited until after finalising and announcing the latest changes to its membership scheme before arranging this dialogue, the formation of the committee is a step in the right direction. Like many supporters, we do have some concerns based on the events and outcomes of previous fan dialogue arrangements. In recent years, the Fans’ Working Group was held, but the views aired by fans at the meeting were routinely ignored, while the representative of the club who attended the meeting was not allowed to make any meaningful decisions without the consent of the club’s owners. Of course, neither of the Allams themselves ever dared to attend. It is vitally important, if this committee is to be successful, that whoever attends this meeting on behalf of Hull City is in a position to actually listen to and act upon the views of supporters’ on the key issues. This is as prescribed by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) guidelines for Meaningful Supporters Dialogue. The guidelines, which can be read in full here, state that: Senior representatives from the club – either club owners / directors and/or senior executive management should represent the club at these meetings No individuals should be excluded from the meetings without good reason Frequency of meetings must be clear, set-out from the start, and consistent Meetings should be fully minuted and minutes should be made public knowledge in weeks following meetings All of the above points represent a change from how the meetings were run in the past. This committee could represent a positive step forward in rebuilding the relationship between fans and the club, but only if it really is a genuine concerted effort by the club to do so. There will be no shortage of passionate fans prepared to give up their time to contribute. The only question is whether the club are serious about consultation or whether it will be a half-hearted effort like previously. http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com/...n-of-supporters-committee/?platform=hootsuite
"Of course, neither of the Allams themselves ever dared to attend." Dared? What a totally unnecessary and counter-productive dig.
Meetings should be fully minuted and minutes should be made public knowledge in weeks following meetings None of this 'off the record' bollocks.
Agreed too aggressive, should have been we welcome the news and see you there. All the other stuff would be useful after the first meeting.
Mary had a little Allam, Something something joke. In all seriousness - **** off allams. ALLAMS OUT. ALLAMS OUT.
Because at first it seemed like a professional set up, but now it seems to be ran by a bunch of angry young men with no real purpose/viewpoints other than "the Allams are dicks". We all know the Allams are dicks, but you don't come out with **** like this when the club are "reaching out" to you, the press release didn't need the line about the Allams being "scared". It merely enforces the negative image that some people (including now, myself) have of the HCST and does nothing to help. Shame what's happened really, it had massive potential and even has the most official name available, but it's a massive waste.
Anyway, I've applied to join this thing. Surprised there weren't any questions like "why do you want to join this thing?", just a few tick boxes, and then rather oddly asked for my postcode, which I'm guessing will rule me out as it's in Leeds.
You keep saying this but they simply won't get what they're after. The people who put themselves forward for this are always going to be the passionate ones. It's been different people at various different forms of this group but they've always had very similar views on key issues. The ' "it's just a name" types just aren't interested.
Having been at most of the FWG meetings it was asked on many occasions if Ehab would attend a future meeting, and James Mooney told us that he had asked him to attend. Those meetings were, in the main, very cordial and as the group had been assembled at the behest of the club there was no reason why he couldn't have shown his face and explained in simple terms his reasoning on many of the decisions he was making. His non appearance, and the apparent misleading of his own employee over the money for away fans, suggests he didn't have the bottle. I'm more than happy for HCST to say it like it is, too many fans seem afraid to call them for what they are. If fans think these meetings are the springboard for meaningful two way dialogue on the pressing problems such as membership, concessions and club name they are going to be disappointed.
Problem then though is if the statement had been along the lines of this is great news then people would criticise saying that no important decisions will beamed at this and it won't solve any of the main problems. It's a positive but it will only work if the club actually listens to fans, somehow I doubt that will happen, unless if you include what pies they sell which to be honest who gives a ****.
Actually I agree with that Not that I give two ****s what the As think, I'd much rather look down on them from the moral high ground
I'm pretty sure he'll have similar views to pretty much everyone else who's gone in the past. Certainly don't think he's a "it's his money, he can do what he wants" sort.
What are you on about. I said it's only the passionate types who'll go. TWF I'm sure is one such example. If they want people who only want to talk about 'matchday experience' and nod along they'll be disappointed. Mooney always used to go on about changing the 'format' or the individuals involved, which was a thinly veiled way of saying he didn't like the fact we all wanted the same thing that he couldn't provide.
