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**** Off Luke Shaw you lazy ****

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Skylarker, Apr 3, 2017.

  1. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    He's got a lot of work to do between now and the end of the season to justify being allowed to spend further for next season.
    If we don't get in the CL then next season will be like groundhog day, he simply has to one way or the other.

    I'm by no means Mourinho's biggest fan but his record more than stacks up v Wenger.
    It just does. Arsenal haven't played great football or won anything of real note for years. Nor has Wenger 'produced' any talent of real worth.

    If Jose has been sussed then that ship sailed on Wenger half a dozen years ago.
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Probably left us too soon (How many times over the years?<whistle>)... most definitely too much too soon and probably needs a fresh start now to see what he can achieve.

    The talent is most certainly there, the desire and application? Guess we'll find that out over the next couple of years. He certainly isn't the brightest and seems very immature too. I said on another thread this morning that he apparently moved a few of his mates up North with him when he signed for United as he wasn't one for living on his own.
     
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  3. seabreeze

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    Almost every player is bought pretty well , academy or not. . It's what you pay for them and what level you get them IMO.
     
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  4. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I think Maureen will try and buy Danny Rose from Spurs in the summer, Shaw could go the other way.
     
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  5. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    Good point.

    Of late Wenger has spent relatively little and got **** all for it.

    I fail to see how that makes him superior to anybody in any way. In case you hadn't noticed, no league title in ten years and no European success, ever.

    How is this deemed good?
     
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    As compared to spending a lot and getting less ?
     
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  7. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    In what universe has Mourinho achieved less than Wenger?
     
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    " Of Late " ...at a lot more cost .
     
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  9. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    Even 'of late' Mourinho is more successful given we've won the league Cup and sit above Arsenal but let's give Jose more than 2/3 of a season before deciding if he's been a success shall we?
     
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  10. Saints_Alive

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    I going to use the hypothetical "formula one" question i.e. with all things being equal, same car etc who is the better driver?.
    Just imagine Wenger and Mourinho at say my club, where developing players is a crucial part of the business model, who is likely to be more successful? my money would be on Wenger, definately.
     
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  11. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Hate to say this but Jose is and always has been better than Wenger, no argument to be had unless you just like finishing in the CL spots and think of that as the ultimate goal.
     
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  12. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy
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    Or finishing above Spurs.
     
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  13. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    I'm talking specifically about coaching players.
     
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  14. luvgonzo

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    I agree with Chief though, Wenger doesn't have a great record of bringing players through into the first team.
     
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  15. Saints_Alive

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    Also people talk as if Wenger has never done anything in English football, 3 PL titles and 6 FA Cup wins and a whole season unbeaten is hardly nothing.
     
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    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    He is good at spotting young talent from other clubs and making them better.
     
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    He's in the squad for tonight's game after he spoke with Jose Mourinho yesterday.
     
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  18. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Yeah, he can or at least could spot a good player.
     
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  19. Yesterday, on the Adrian Durham show, after he had finished frothing at the mouth over the David Moyes debacle, he suggested that United could do a straight swap with Spurs, Rose for Shaw.

    <laugh><laugh><laugh>


    I nearly drove my car into a ****ing hedge, I was laughing so hard!
     
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    You'll kill that Rover 25 with behaviour like that Gimps.
     
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