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Reasons for the membership scheme

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by askewshair, Mar 31, 2017.

  1. askewshair

    askewshair Well-Known Member

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    Apart from the familial stubborn streak, why would Ehab carry on this ridiculous scheme when it is absolutely obvious it will eat into his inheritance?
     
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    He is convinced he is a pioneer and a visionary like his old man with his addled 'Manchester Hunter' spiel.
     
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    AlRawdah Well-Known Member

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    ****ers gonna ****.
     
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  4. askewshair

    askewshair Well-Known Member

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    Serious thread. I can't see any reason why he has carried this scheme. We have very clever people and even business men on this forum. Be honest, any reason, apart from stubbornness?
     
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  5. City Man

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    It was a serious answer.
    They have isolated themselves and only employ min wage ciphers and yes men. There is no one who will stand up to them and say 'This is wrong, it will never work, It's divisive, messy and over complicated."
     
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  6. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    It's an idea that they've had (or one suggested that they agreed with)

    Therefore they will carry on with it regardless of absolutely anything

    Idiots
     
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    Ron Burguvdy Well-Known Member

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    People have told them that before, but as you suggest, they only want yes men, so those people have now left.
     
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    you call it "stubborn streak", i say tomato.
     
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  10. askewshair

    askewshair Well-Known Member

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    Must be a reason though, every idea has pros and cons. Some ideas maybe because of personal values we may not agree with.
    • financial? No
    • ties people into a scheme they don't want? No
    • rewards loyalty? No
    • popular?No
    • encourages future participation? No
    • ensures people get a ticket? No
    • reacting to customer demand? No
    • .....etc
    • pure stubbornness? yes. Only possible reason???
     
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    You seem determined to ignore your own answer to your question ...
     
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    Only one I can think of is cash flow but I don't know how big an issue that is in PL football.

    I think he just wanted to do something different to show the football world he's a man to be reckoned with as opposed to shoo in, which is what he is.
     
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  13. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    The reason he is sticking with the rolling monthly payment thing does have a sound basis in theory
    It's part of the notion in 'nudge theory' that even though you still have a choice most people won't make an active choice to change an existing relationship once it's in place. So cancelling requires a conscious decision and therefore more people will simply keep their pass in the same way that organ donations would go up if you had to choose not to donate rather than had to choose to donate

    Nudge theory doesn't consider the emotions of being a fan of a football team, but I think it is true that numbers would be even lower if it was the other way round and you had to make a concious decision to buy a pass rather than effectively being opted in regardless

    Phew...enough management theory bollocks for today!
     
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    askewshair Well-Known Member

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    Bot compare it to the pass where at least he has everyone trapped for a season.
     
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    The theory still has merit. Statistically less people cancel that wouldn't choose to renew, and very few cancel mid season

    Doesn't make the scheme any less ****e, it was just the only thing I could think of that has any theoretical sense

    And as I said it doesn't take into account the emotional issues of being a fan, when people will choose to cancel to make a point too
     
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  16. Party Hull!

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    Too much pride. Filled to the brim with hubris. And I think there's a healthy dollop of 'don't yield to the plebs' type think as well.

    Pride and arrogance prevent them from admitting mistakes and moving away from them. I think it's a waste of time looking for business reasoning as I think the faults are all personal - and clearly hereditary.
     
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    Funnily enough, my daughter recently asked me for help with her 'management ethics' assignment for her degree. She wanted a good and poor example of stakeholder theory. My written 1000 word rant about the Allams did contribute to her achieving a 2:1 for that assignment, so do have to thank him for something. They are obviously teaching her incredibly well about management, getting me to very willingly do (the bulk of) her assignment, by just casually mentioning the topic. I have heard that writing it down is suppose to be therapeutic. Trust me, it doesn't work.
     
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  18. dennisboothstash

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    Haha
    It's good that the Allam's are useful for something!
     
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