And If it doesn't I will await your apology from somewhere in France.. you shouldn't even get a vote as far as I am concerned. Sat in France telling us what we should do!
I voted out for my family. The Country is already broken in half. Which is why so many in Labour voting areas voted out. They were losing, and losing heavily within the EU. Brexit will not be a panacea for a myriad of complex social problems, but it does offer opportunity for creating regional solutions via independence. You cannot look at the fishing industry when somebody else controls it for instance. Agriculture ... Ditto. On that goes ... Brexit = Land of milk and honey? No. Opportunity to govern ourselves in a manner decided by the populace, left, right, centre right? Yes.
I have earned the right as a British citizen and 45 years a tax payer And who the hell are you to say I don't have the right ? This is just typical tory holier-than-thou thinking. Don't hold your breath waiting for anything from me Your collective insanity has put the whole future of Britain (or should I say England) in jeapody, and if you have any its your grandchildren who will suffer for it
The people of Labour areas were reacting against 7 years of draconian Tory austerity and imbalance that sees areas such as Wiltshire, Berkshire and Surrey gaining in prosperity at the expense of the infirm, the working classes and the under-priveliged. Their reaction against the EU was misdirected thanks mainly to the lies of Farage and Johnson, both of whom should be put in jail. If you think the Tory government speak for the people then you are seriously deluded. They do not. Britain has been mismanaged and hoodwinked into this, and it will take a lifetime to rebuild. Prepare for an austerity like you can't imagine.
Surely it's not worth fighting the same old battles, we've had the arguments, we heard all of the tales from both sides of the great divide, we had project fear and all of the lies from the remoaners, we had the £350m bus and the lies from the leavers, the UK decision was a majority to leave, there was no extra vote for people who wanted to grow 3 legs, no extra vote for people who have seen UFO's, we voted for in or out, not for our destination.. The likes of Ken Clarke, Tim Farron, Nick Clegg and all of their ilk just won't understand and look for every excuse to hang on by their finger nails, they have no spine or balls, we are leaving the EU, the decision has been made, we are about to lift the shackles of the EU from our shoulders, British laws made in Britain for the British, political decisions made in London, Belfast, Cardiff and Edinburgh by and for the British, trading with the world on our own terms and values, not monitered and controlled by unelected, empire building, over paid, old white male buffoons in Brussels. We should all be getting together and getting on with the job and get back to being an independent, a confident self fulfilled nation.. Rock on the UK, free Europeans..
I am struggling to understand your post. Towns in Wiltshire with high out votes (Melksham/Trowbridge) have working class estates which are not gaining in prosperity. People were hoodwinked into the EU. A undemocratic cartel, an Empire, a unwieldy superstate. The most right wing party I have voted for is Tony Blairs Nu Labour. The Tories certainly do not speak for me. The Tories are attacking workers rights, selling off the NHS, expanding the gap in wealth inequality and pursuing with a failed austerity policy. They will probably (will) carry on doing the same, and we have a constitutional defence - a VOTE. Remember the EU did not stop the Tories austerity and attack on the working classes. The EU was anti democratic. It denied people ability to change the way we live our lives. I voted for Parliamentary sovereignty free of the EU ... Millions did. That sovereignty free of the EU gives the population the opportunity to create a democracy that is closer to their own homes e.g. Regional Governance is a real option v a illusion. Big hopes for the future, might even get a real progressive Labour party eventually to vote for ...
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Towns in Wiltshire with high out votes (Melksham/Trowbridge) have working class estates which are not gaining in prosperity. Exception that proves the rule, but I think we can agree that Wiltshire is fairly prosperous thanks to the small but extremely powerful landowner population. People were hoodwinked into the EU. A undemocratic cartel, an Empire, a unwieldy superstate. The EU took us 30 years of campaigning to get into, by the best diplomats of the day. Britain was not trusted before this, we have not always conducted ourselves fairly on the continent of Europe (or anywhere else) and it took a superhuman effort to get us on board The most right wing party I have voted for is Tony Blairs Nu Labour. The Tories certainly do not speak for me. Amen to that bro… The Tories are attacking workers rights, selling off the NHS, expanding the gap in wealth inequality and pursuing with a failed austerity policy. They will probably (will) carry on doing the same, and we have a constitutional defence - a VOTE. Yes but we had that before, and look how we used it Remember the EU did not stop the Tories austerity and attack on the working classes. So what will stop it now ? Nothing has changed in that department, except the Tories are now in an unassailable position because they can rewrite the book to suit themselves (and they will do). Hundreds of legislations rewritten to suit the rich and stuff the poor of this country, and May has the impudence to suggest they are making a country for everybody. And by the way, that includes the Bill of Human Rights, which the EU was safeguarding for the good of the British people. God only knows what disgusting society Britain is going to end up with now. The EU was anti democratic. It denied people ability to change the way we live our lives. I voted for Parliamentary sovereignty free of the EU ... Millions did. 17 million in fact. In a country of 70 million. Everybody else thought it was a waste of time. Somebody on this board suggested we should make voting compulsory like in Australia. If we are to be a true democracy then that should happen The EU never denied us anything particularly, and counties like Cornwall (who voted out) owe a great debt to the assistance given them by the people of Paris, Lyon, Brussels, Koln, Frankfurt etc etc - and the price for the people of Cornwall ? Straight bananas lol ! That sovereignty free of the EU gives the population the opportunity to create a democracy that is closer to their own homes e.g. Regional Governance is a real option v a illusion. Yeah, cos thats really going to happen. All that this has done is to consign Britain to break-up, and England to poverty. And that poverty will be paid for by the working and under-priveliged classes. Don't believe for a minute that the top third of English society will foot the bill because they won't. Understand it now ?
My family are from Wiltshire. The Wiltshire I see is different. West Wilts is made up of industrial towns ... Overwhelmingly prosperous it is not. I still do not understand your posts. The EU provided little protection to the working class of the UK v Tory enforced legislation/austerity. The EU has ignored member state referendums and enforced austerity measures. Pro austerity. The EU never denied us anything ... If Britain had a left leaning Government that wanted to pursue privatisation of utilities ... The EU would be opposed, indeed it Is working towards making interventionist/protectionist economics illegal in the union. That is undermining democracy as Countries cannot move away from EU capitalism and neoliberalism if it was an objective of their elected Government . Even the safety standards of cosmetics are decided in Brussels. Brussels dictates to and denies British industry opportunity all the time. What I have posted about is bringing democracy closer to home. Stretching it to the EU does the polar opposite. Bringing democracy closer to home creates opportunity. We have sovereignty and still have the opportunity of future generations growing up in a country that doesn't revolve around big business and wealth inequality. That opportunity may seem far off to non existent but its an opportunity, a viable alternative for a more compassionate capitalism that that does not exist within the EU. You may poo poo the idea of Regional Governance and the ability of rural areas to decide how they farm, and coastal towns to fish waters as they please ... I look at these as being sensible solutions. Opportunity to for people to represent themselves v the views of those in different countries lumped into a super state. Onwards and upwards ...
It's interesting to me; out of everyone I have spoken to about this, friends, colleagues, the vast majority of them (9/10) voted remain - yet Swindon voted leave. Out of those few I know who do admit to voting leave (1 family member and a handful of friends), one openly admits that he cast a 'protest' vote, and is now worried about the future. It must be the company I keep I suppose - with me working in financial services and the wife being a teacher, most of our colleagues are remainers. A few of the old retired boys down the pub voted leave - and a builder mate who I play football with, but that's it! There are more brexiteers here on this forum than I know in real life! Perhaps the Russians hacked the vote, like they did Trumps!!!!
Out of the 70 million how many had the right to vote? Because in 2013 the population was 64 million. You will then need to subtract the under 18's so I'm baffled how it's got to 70 million?? Also I've never declared on here before which way I voted but it was to remain. But since the result was announced I was bit pissed till about 10am but thought it's happened now so let's just get on with it.
Who the hell are you to suggest people who wanted to vote contrary to your snowflake, plastic socialist opinion should be "hung drawn and quartered in the Tower" I voted for the future of my children. Do you have any?? You should be happy really, it gives you the opportunity to blame every little dip and social problem over the next two years on Brexit. It is my opinion that if you don't live here you don't get a say! simple as that
You need to get yourself out of your french ivory tower mate and get back and mix with some real people. Get yourself down the 3 lions and spout your drivel, you'll get told what real working class people really think. not the snowflake, me me me generation.
You talk mainly rubbish and I am reluctant to debate it with you really, but explain how you come up with the above comedy gold when it is universally accepted even by the EU that we pay in more than we receive. They voted out because the EU stole their livelihoods.. Normal working class people who had their jobs stolen by the EU.
I am glad you posted this. Where does it say on that bus that We could spend an extra £350m per week on the NHS? Another ongoing lie perpetrated by the snowflakes that I have heard repeatedly over the last few days.
You have the temerity to accuse people of lying whilst doing so yourself. There are 64.1 million people in the UK currently (but you add on another 6m for effect, thats ok!) of the 64.1 million people 46 million are eligible to vote of the 46 Million, 33.6 million voted Thats 72.2 % Thats the highest turnout for any vote in living memory. It is a widely regard fact that the non voters would be considered a majority 'working class' and statistically more likely to vote leave. The remainers were given every chance to vote and were more likely to do so. Dry your eyes snowflakes, you lost.
Interesting development - now we effectively have to give Gibraltar to Spain in order to get a deal. Let's hope we tell them (Brussels) to keep their deal - or rather to shove it up their ample arses.
You opinion doesn't mean a sh_t to me Snowflake ! Listening to your arguments it is easy to see how it all happened if you are a representation of the leave brigade. It will be interesting to see who vanishes into the woodwork when reality strikes I voted for everybody's children
You are making it sound like a playground fight Frankly I can see why it happened if people like you have been given a vote 46 million is not 17 million, so you have reinforced my argument Thanks for that
