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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    So you're saying that your neighbours' cat knows more about football than you do?
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Nobody's flawless, but we're a very well run club.
    Levy's doing a good job and pointing out the odd mistake doesn't distract from that.

    No idea why we signed Sissoko, though.
    This isn't hindsight either, as I was fuming at the time.
     
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  3. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    You do seem to struggle understanding what you read, it actually means the cat knows as much as you lot :grin:
     
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  4. Diego

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    Bit of mild poking mate, no harm meant :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Yes we have overpaid for many, many players, it's what we have to do because others know we can and will so not really telling me anything the neighbours cat couldnt.

    Please tell me, in fact tell all of us, how this doesn't sound an awful lot like you admitting that your neighbour's cat knows more about football than you do.

    And while you're at it, do hurry up and admit that I was right and you were wrong about Jermain Defoe starting against Lithuania - you know, that other time in the past week where I appear to have understood what you typed much better than you clearly have...
     
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  6. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    Well obviously because I never mentioned how much I know about football, only how much you and the cat seem to know <doh>

    How can I be wrong about a person I never mentioned :huh:
     
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  7. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    You never mentioned how little you know about football? So what do you do every time you post here? Because you aren't mentioning your depth of knowledge, that's for sure.

    When Spurs make a loss selling players to clubs with bottomless pits of funds, which you did when selling Veron to Chelsea and Di Maria to PSG, that's when you can say we can't negotiate.
    When Spurs sign players to help other clubs comply with FFP regulations, as you did when signing Di Maria from Madrid's second-favourite club or Mata from Chelsea, that's when you can say we can't negotiate.
    When Spurs pay the best part of £90m for a player they forgot to renew their contract four years earlier, that's when you can say we can't negotiate.

    Clear enough for you, or are you going to respond with more mealy-mouthed crap capped off with this forum's equivalent of a Godwin's Law violation, basing a response on using the <doh>emoticon rather than saying anything that makes any sense whatsoever?
     
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  8. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    <laugh> <laugh> <laugh> (please forgive these, I just don't think you can hear me from here so put it in pictorial format)
    Never mind, I will try to write a little simpler next time I join in, don't want to cause any stress.

    By the way, we didn't forget to renew anyone's contract, but a youth player once refused to sign one because he wanted to play ahead of the seniors, I wouldn't have to tell you that if you knew as much as next doors cat,
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Still having trouble seeing the hole you keep digging for yourself?

    As for the second part, I'm sure your neighbour's cat will echo the sentiments I'll share with you: if a young player wants some time in the first team...is it that difficult to give them a run in the first team? The worst case scenario is you can sell them for a tidy sum sometime down the line, sort of like the £40m off the sales of Ryan Mason, Nabil Bentaleb, Tom Carroll and Alex Pritchard this season - or, you know, they might establish themselves in the first team.

    I doubt your clubs' accountants find this particularly funny.
     
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  10. Citizen Kane

    Citizen Kane Danny Rosebud

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    It's easy to get tied up in the whole Pogba thing. As far as I recall, his attitude and approach to the original contract offer warranted Fergie showing him the door. What doesn't seem to be at all warranted is you strangely valuing him at £90m when frankly he currently looks like a poor man's Paulinho.

    But there's surely no ignoring the astonishing amounts of money you've pissed up a wall over the years. The fact that you have that money doesn't make it any less amusing to us when you come on here giving it billy big bollocks about the one transfer we've screwed up since Poch took over.

    Glancing at your transfer history, I'd argue that you need to go back 12 years to find a season where United made some excellent purchases for some very reasonable fees. Evra, Vidic and Van Der Sar for a combined total of £14m represented astute and well-informed business that saw you bring in 3 players who would form part of the core of one of the most successful eras in your history. So saying 'oh it can't be done, other clubs have us over a barrel because they know how rich we are' just doesn't wash with me as far as I'm concerned. £17m on Owen Hargreaves?! Who the fack sanctioned that?! Had they not glanced at his injury record?! Procrastinate over Fellaini so that his release clause expires and his price doubles overnight to £28m?! And you're paying people for that?! Oh and let's wait until the last few days of the window for Monaco to give Martial a new contract thereby adding £10m to his fee. Schneiderlin, Depay, Shaw. This is schoolboy stuff.

    I think what has got a few of our own so worked up over this is that a United fan of all people has the temerity to come on here and laugh at us about transfer policy. The only people I'm perfectly ok to take **** from in that department are Southampton fans.
     
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  11. Diego

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    Again, if you ask the cat he would tell you that the player concerned had time in the first team and was like a rabbit in the headlights. Other young players had similar opportunities at the same time and looked much better able to cope yet they never refused to sign a new contract.
    Just to enlighten you further, there are quite a few players in the PL who got their chance at United and even though they didn't make it with us they proved good enough to go to other PL teams and make a career,
    If young players are prepared to wait and learn they get their chance at OT, if they decide to cut and run then that is their (or their agents) choice.

    The bit in bold, we don't breed players like cattle to sell on for a profit, we train them to play football for the first team, if they fail to make the grade at first team level we tend to let them go cheap so they get the chance to make a career elsewhere.
    Always have, you shouldn't need the cat to tell you that,
     
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  12. Diego

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    Confused about that bit but much of the rest I wouldn't argue with.
    I stated earlier it was a mild poke but only one person seemed to get that. If you all get so excited about Rashford being mentioned on the same page as Spurs you should expect a little bit back
    (Croydon is funny though, I have an image of someone smashing the keyboard so hard they will need a new one tomorrow)
     
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  13. Citizen Kane

    Citizen Kane Danny Rosebud

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    I meant them as a general theme at United since Fergie left of spending vast sums on a player then not actually playing them.

    I'd love Rashford at Spurs but it ain't going to happen. He's contracted until 2020 so the fee - if that is you would even consider selling to a rival - would be enormous. What with the media circus surrounding him I'd say anywhere upwards of £30m. And if the reason he's supposedly stalling over a contract extension is lack of playing time, I don't see where he'd fit in here to remedy that situation unless we revert to 4 at the back and play him as one of the '3' behind Kane. He'd be a regular on the bench but that is essentially what he is at OT anyway.

    We do need a pacy option up top and in all likelihood we'll settle for someone like Zaha for £12-15m. And in all honesty, in the post-Sissoko age I wouldn't be that against such a move. Pre-sissoko i would've been. Nowadays I've learned to value players who can run in a straight line without tripping over the ball.
     
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  14. Diego

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    Not really sure where that has come from, he has played in 38 games so far this season starting 20 of them, only 3 other players have played a part in more games. The PL is a squad game now and he isn't doing bad at all for game time given his age, don't burn a good player out too young.

    You are dead right about us buying players and then never playing them though, Depay needed time because his nerve went and he constantly tried too hard to impress in his odd chances and ultimately failed, Schneiderlin, **** knows what happened there he should/could have been a star for us imo.
     
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  15. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Tomorrow's Sun's back page centres upon their 'Exclusive' story that United want to sign Eric Dier for £40m. The story centres on how much money they have to waste....sorry, spend. It details how impressed Jose is with our man.

    Unfortunately, the story is a little vague on some important issues. It skirts by the issue of why we would want to sell him, why we'd let him go so cheaply and more fundamentally, it completely ignores the fact that he's not for sale. As previously seen, 'Exclusive' means 'Totally Made Up'.
     
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  16. Citizen Kane

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    It's the angle the tabloids went with. Probably bollocks as you say but correct me if I'm wrong: weren't 9 of those 20 starts in EL/League Cup games? I'm pretty sure the majority of his PL apps have been from the bench. He's only started 10-12 games this season. Like I say, you probably know better than me so correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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  17. Diego

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    TBH I have no idea which games he started in but the EL is pretty important to us this year so I don't see a problem with that, we have played a strong team in every game.
     
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  18. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Dier to United for £40m
    Walker and Rose to City for £60
    Lloris to United £30m
    Kane to Real/ United £60m
    Dele to PSG/Real £50m

    All have been exclusives since January

    Yet no papers have mentioned
    A) why would spurs suddenly agree to sell players they wanted to keep to English clubs after refusing to do so for NINE YEARS?
    B) spurs do not sell a player they want to keep when said player was not demanding a move and these players are not demanding a move!
    C) spurs are building a 61000 seater stadium ... how will they fill it if they sell their entire team?
    D) that the papers are full of ****!
     
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  19. Citizen Kane

    Citizen Kane Danny Rosebud

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    I'm getting my data from here: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/marc...ein=985&liga=&wettbewerb=GB1&pos=&trainer_id=

    Column on the right shows minutes played; judging by it there aren't that many starts in the PL so far this season.

    The fact that you don't see a problem with it doesn't necessarily mean that the player doesn't either. The obvious link with Spurs derives from the fact that we have a manager who strongly believes in giving youth the chance to flourish. Mourinho has always placed his trust in the veterans at every club he's been at.
     
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  20. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    A £40m offer for Dier wouldn't even wake Levy up in the morning.
     
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