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the media caused the riots

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Aug 12, 2011.

  1. -jordan-

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    i agree with a lot of what ya say to be honest..especially about it being like christmas for them..there's no news like bad news and like you said, they did seem to love every minute of it.

    they could have been a lot more coy with the info that they had too instead of broadcasting it live to millions, stuff like cop numbers and where they were etc..i wouldn't say they were responsible, more irresponsible cause they need to be a hell of a lot more smarter with the info they have next time something like this kicks off.
     
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  2. -jordan-

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    and do you :D
     
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  3. Rollercoaster Ranger

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    I don't believe this nonsense. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. To blame anyone else is total crap. No one should be looking for excuses for these "people", they all knew it was wrong. Certainly there are underling conditions that need sorting, but that does not excuse any of this behaviour.

    It is the media's job to inform us as to what is happening in the country. Should they just have ignored it?
     
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  4. RAVENBLACK

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    Thank God for some sense at last!!

    Poor wee rioters - it's not their fault.

    And it wasn't the fault of Rangers fans in Manchester, I mean the big telly broke, it was understandable really.

    What a disgrace we have become.
     
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  5. Alan

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    This <ok>
     
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  6. -jordan-

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    <ok>
     
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  7. DevAdvocate

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    Half of these scumbags would not know how to open a newspaper let alone read it.

    If the media were responsible in was in a very minor way indeed, and no, they should not share the blame, in fact even typing that out makes me realise what a lot of bollocks this blame game really is.

    The only people responsible were the looters and rioters and to stretch your risible analogies to breaking point, I suppose the people who had their cars torched were partly to blame for leaving a shiny motor in the street, and shopkeepers and busineses responsible for putting nice things in the windows.

    Utter crap.
     
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  8. greenhenky

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    there was hardly any media cover the 2nd night of the riots if i remember, but everyone still knew what was going on through social media sites and forums like on here so don't think you can really blame them that much. <ok>
     
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  9. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    no blame game here

    I agree these people were scumbags for what they did and should be strung up

    However on analysis, there are a variety of 'factors' that are being put forward as an explanation

    In my view those factors may have been there in the first instance (as in the protest) but the media coverage of the 'helplessness' of the police lead to widespread looting

    It gave the scum the reason/courage/ whatever you want to call it

    It was irresponsible at the least and instigated at worst by the constant coverage of the inadequacies of policing
     
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  10. irishgreen

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    I think the OP is merely saying that the media didn't help matters.As in the police are out numbered,the police are standing back,the police have their hands tied,bla de bla.......#

    If they thought they were going to get a good kicking,they may have thought twice.
     
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  11. DevAdvocate

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    As someone previously asked, what was the media supposed to do? Ignore it or cover it up?
     
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  12. irishgreen

    irishgreen Well-Known Member

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    ADR,Dev but they have 'sat on' stories and been economical with the truth before.
     
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  13. DevAdvocate

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    And been roundly condemned for it too.
     
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  14. irishgreen

    irishgreen Well-Known Member

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    And rightly so IMO.
    I'm just trying to look at it from the OPs reasoning.
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

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    I have, there is none.
     
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  16. irishgreen

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    OK.We'll agree to disagree Dev,no harm done
     
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  17. Bhoy From Brum

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    You mean Chelsea Fans <ok>
     
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  18. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    no one is saying ignore it or indeed cover it up. what I am saying is th emethodology/approach that was taken

    There was less emphasis on the riots/looting initially and more on the lack of policing, helplessness of the police etc

    I think what is happening here is what always happens, no looking at the complete picture

    the tottenham stuff was not the media, the manchester/birmingham some of london etc was imo largely down to the reporting/emphasis on the lack of police numbers etc

    again it want the only thing, but played a major role imo

    anyone who thinks the media doesnt have a measure of influence on public response/thought etc is naive imo

    currently you have the whole syria thing, and the condemnation lead by H. Clinton, but no mention of the israeli's building 1600 more housing where they shouldnt be according to UN law/resolutions

    The BBC only last month were guilty of falsifying pictures/stories and paying compensation

    the media is more influential than people think
     
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