Match Day Thread Watford v Southampton Sat 4/3/17 3.00 PM

Also it would be hand ball at the point of release?

 

. Thinking about it.

 

That's another factor, but has anyone in the history of football ever been penalised for handball at a throw-in?

 

For throw-ins the ball is dead as it has fully crossed the touchline. The ball is not 'in play' until released from thrower's hands.
So when a ball boy chucks the ball to player A who is on pitch, who then catches it, it's not handball. He walks to touchline, and ball is not 'in play' until he throws and releases ball. Even though he could be technically holding ball on the pitch in the micro second before he releases which is what I think Beddy is describing.

 

But that picture isn't from the official laws of the game, only from someone interpreting the law.

 

Wikihow is not a reliable or credible source.

 

May be, but it does make sense as the rule is written. No point having a line if it is OK to step over it!

 

Part of your foot still has to be on it though...

 

http://community.tribesports.com/guides/how-to-avoid-annoying-foul-throws
https://www.football-bible.com/soccer-info/soccer-throw-in.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/bsp/hi/football/rules/throw_ins/html/default.stm
https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_15_the_throw_in_en_47365.pdf

Plenty of sources which say the foot can be on or behind the line, not one says it can be beyond or in the playing area.

 

Don this will be my final post so hopefully it is clear: You're right it doesn't state anything about inside the playing area, though this certainly does not mean no part of the foot can enter the playing area.

on the line: part of your foot is on the line, be it toes, mid-foot, heel (for heels obviously the rest of your foot is 'in the playing area', this is fine)
behind the line: your feet are behind the line as stated.

From FIFA's doc you provided: - has part of each foot either on the touchline or on the ground outside the touchline.

So you have to be connected in some way to the touchline, or, behind it. Ok?

 

Not OK. 'On the line or behind it'. I can't believe this weird, new interpretation. Any junior school kid could tell you the rule.

 

The trouble is people IMO are mixing up rules. Because a full ball has to be behind the line for a throw or a goal, or as far as corners are concerned, if they place the ball on the line is ok providing part of the ball is in the allotted corner area.
If they can give penalties for hand balls on the goal line (or if it had crossed the line a goal would already be given despite the hand ball) Which means in theory any ball handled in the field of play should be hand ball. So even if a ball is thrown in as soon as it passes the line whether in the hands or not it is live. IMO you can't have it any other way, to answer you Fran probably no, as I think it would be considered a foul throw rather than hand ball.
Trouble is in this day and age every footballer is coached to do things they think referees or assistants will not see. We all see things going on that is not in the rules of the game and because of this I personally think refs at that level need as much help from technology as is possible.

 

You're wrong about corners Beddy! Only "the shadow" of the ball has to touch the corner line. The ball doesn't have to be behind the line at all.

 

No I cannot agree with that interpretation and never will. In play is in play and is a foul throw, not even a bootlace over the line is allowed.

 

Really.......? I didn't know that I always assumed as long as the curve of the ball touched the line )__ .....it was deemed as legal.

 

Part of the ball has to be within the D i.e. not touching it, but within the zone, not sure shadow is right way to say it, that would depend on which way the sun was shining!

 

Don't know why they make the rule read like that....be easier to say and enforce if you say that the ball has to touch the D. I don't think a tiny difference is a difference, so why not just make the rule straightforward. I have noticed that more and more often the ball is now clearly outside the D....may be within the letter of the law, but why make the law so hazy.

 

Part of the ball has to at least be above the arc line.

By the way, the law also says you can't score an own goal direct from a corner! Phew!

 

I can't believe this rule-debate is still going on!

 

The law actually says the ball has to be inside the arc line, but this is another occasion where referees obviously interpret the law differently from how it is written!