Match Day Thread Watford v Southampton Sat 4/3/17 3.00 PM

I reckon the rule has been altered then sometime back. Tell you what, I'll look it up.!

[pause while I look it up]

Here's the FA rule on throw-ins: http://www.thefa.com/football-rules...les/laws/football-11-11/law-15---the-throw-in

Here's FIFA's [it's way more involved, so here's a copy of the procedure only]:



So it is ON THE LINE and BEHIND THE LINE. No part of the foot must be on the unmarked part of the in-play surface. Nice to see FIFA's pic showing the player doing a proper throw-in. The FA's picture could be badly interpreted because it's a foul throw as it stands [see the link].

 

This isn't correct then according TSS and the actual written rules or am I missing something?

 

No, it's not correct. But we've been wrong in that we thought the player's feet should be wholly behind the line. They can stand on the line and behind the line, but no part of the foot must be over the line and on the unmarked, in-play surface. As a player, basically, if you stand behind the line, you're fine. Anyway, Watford's first goal came from a foul throw, not seen.

 

Some of you lot must be older than I thought, because that's been the rule since about 1890...

PS. Vin is right.

 

Here's another one: The rule on taking corners. I was always told that the ball had to be within the D [the quarter circle]. These days the ball doesn't even have to be touching the white line as long as it's shadow from above covers a part of the line, and the ball is outside the D. When did that change.?

 

Blimey Fran, you don't want much do you? I'll skip sending you my latest topless photo!

 

No it's not.

"At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower must ... have part of each foot on the touchline or on the ground outside the touchline". Where does it say anything about "No part of the foot must be on the unmarked part of the in-play surface"? You've literally made that up.

It's crystal clear. If your heel's on the touchline then part of that foot is on the touchline. So it's legal.

Vin

PS The rule's been like that for the entirety of my time watching football, to the best of my knowledge.

 

I didn't make it up. It was my way of explanation. The player's foot must not enter the unmarked area of play. That's simple. The touchline is deemed in-play because a football has to be completely outside it to be dead, so if the player steps on the line his foot is in-play. But his foot must not go over the line into the unmarked in-play area. I was making that distinction only.

 

That's how I read it - part of each foot must touch the line or the area behind the line but no mention of one or either foot crossing the touchline being an infringement as long as the as they are touching the line.

 

I don't care how you interpret it, the rule is crystal clear.

Let me make it simple. You've linked to the rule, so find me the place in the rule where is says anything at all about not being allowed to have the front of your foot in the field of play. I will give £100 to the charity of your choice if you can. Go on.

I learned something new on Thursday. I find it hard to believe that I've gone 53 years without knowing this: https://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/

Vin

 

Exactly right Fran, you always seem to say what I think which is why I don't comment that often!

Take VVD for instance, he has been tied to a long contract so why sell this summer or even next when barring an injury I can't see his value doing anything but increasing so if we sell we will miss out on 10 million more per season!

 

Christ I feel like im in one of Puel's press conferences

 

Yes, ive played with plenty of players like Redmond, who are pretty mouthy on the pitch. With team mates, officials and opponents.
Usually they are nice as pie off the pitch, but something changes when crossing the white line or even when just their heels are touching the white line.

I imagine their used to his rants by now and don't take anything to heart

 

Don't make such a big thing of it Vin. Keep your money:



http://www.wikihow.com/Do-a-Throw-in-Soccer

 

I was brought up to not cross the line when taking them, but now-a-days we push the boundaries of everything we do it seems, so no surprise. But, wouldn't it have been truly hilarious if they had the goal chalked off because of it!

 

...............and everything has changed for the worse since then.

 

To be fair St.G:

Pitches are better
Footballs are better
Boots are more comfortable for footballers
Coaching has got better
That's allowed skills to flourish
Facilities are better
[space for more 'better' entries]

Respect for the game has got worse
Presentation of the game has got worse [imo]
Boots are less protective
The cost to spectator has rocketed
[space for loads more 'worse']

I wouldn't say everything has changed for the worse. After all, if we go back to say 1950, Pompey are at the top of the League. Now tell me that was better than now.

 

Medical care and fitness is better....at one time, few outfield players lasted beyond thirty because of injuries. Players would stay on the pitch and play on exacerbating damage.

 

Plus the gap between the top half of the PL and grass-roots football in monetary terms has become so wide as to be almost impassable. Nowhere near enough of the astronomical amounts of cash in football gets to the lower league and non-league teams.

 

Wow, my patronisation meter just broke its needle.

I am keeping my money because I don't care what wikibleedinghow says, it's wrong. YOU quoted the rule book but you seem unable to read it. You didn't even read my offer, which is to find where in the rule it says what you're claiming. Not "I bet you can't find an obscure website where they get it wrong as well".

I've had this kind of argument with you before, the one where you absolutely must be right so I hereby give up.

Here you are: Despite the FA rule saying what it says very clearly, the linesman at the Watford game was wrong, didn't understand the real meaning of it, didn't call a foul throw and the goal should have been disallowed. You are 100% right, as you always are. Well done.

Vin