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  1. RobSpur

    RobSpur Well-Known Member

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    To me this just looks like the latest nonsense the left has come up,with to try ro sling mud at trump and his team.

    Why could people who are a part of an election campaign team not have comtact with persons affiliated to an overseas government ?

    In what campaign in any major country has this ever not happened ?

    In case it's escaped peoples' attention, America is not at war with Russia.

    This is just complete ballony so far as I can see.
     
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  2. Really?? I think Trump is doing that job well enough himself without help from 'leftists' <laugh>

    No, the US isn't at war with Russia, but at a time when there is strong evidence of the Kremlin interfering with the electoral process in America, the Trump-chosen Attorney General finds it necessary to lie on oath about his political contacts with Russia during the election.
    That would appear to make him unsuitable to hold an office that has supreme executive power for law enforcement, let alone a role that would be investigating unlawful/inappropriate links with.....RUSSIA!!! <doh>
     
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  3. RobSpur

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39145661

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    "I've been on the Armed Services Committee for 10 years," tweetedDemocratic Senator Claire McCaskill. "No call or meeting with Russian ambassador. Ever. Ambassadors call members of the Foreign Relations Committee."

    A closer look at Mrs McCaskill's Twitter feed revealed several instances - in 2013 and 2015 - where she wrote about meeting the Russian ambassador, however. She says those meetings were not in her capacity as a committee member and were never one-on-one.

    Former Republican congressman Mike Rogers, who chaired the House Intelligence Committee, said such meetings for a senator on the committee would be "routine." Democratic Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia expressed a similar view.

    "I've met with the Russian ambassador with a group, in my capacity, with a group of other senators," he said during a television interview Thursday morning. "That's in my official capacity. That's nothing. That's my job."
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

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    It's perjury. He lied about it under oath.
    Had he not done that, then he could easily have passed this off as part of his job.
    He offered up the information and it was swiftly found to have been false.

    The same excuses were offered up about Flynn, even after he was sacked.
    How many ties does this campaign have to have to Russia before the Republicans see an issue?
     
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    House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz, who's a Republican and normally extremely biased.
    He won't even investigate Flynn, despite him being sacked.
     
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  9. 'Fraid that's still in orbit above........ <laugh>
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    Don't be surprised if this is what greets you at the immigration counter...

     
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  11. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    Meanwhile back in Blighty, more stories of the police not investing crimes, downgrading 999 calls, not tracing suspects, passing serious cases to junior officers etc and of people dying waiting for ambulances to arrive or to be allocated hospital beds or because overworked staff made mistakes and of Councils reducing bin collections whilst incidents of flytipping reach almost one million per year......

    All this is apparently what we have to tolerate as a consequence of austerity policies to reduce the national debt. Even though taxes remain unusually low and it remains boom time for the rich.

    This country is plenty wealthy enough to provide necessary levels of policing and emergency health care for all and to carry out basic services like disposing of waste. The government chooses not to fund these things adequately because to do so might involve raising taxes and asking the rich to contribute more. And it is not politically expedient to do so - no votes in that. It's disturbing that ordinary people's lives are seen as so expendable.
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    I'm half tempted to bring up my experience with one of the outsourcing companies that supplies my local hospital after a certain experience yesterday - but if I don't hear back from the PALS unit in the next ten days, I think a much better place to bring up the subject would be the Croydon Advertiser...
     
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  13. PleaseNotPoll

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    Vote Conservative, get Tories.
    http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...t-why-public-services-are-****-20170222122582
     
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    The leading law enforcement official in the United States told almost exactly the same lie while testifying to Congress which convicted another Attorney General (Richard Kleindienst) of perjury. If anything, it seems his lie is more blatant for having been written down. If that's baloney, so is the rule of law.
     
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    These ****ers just get more stupid by the day, I swear.

    House Intelligence Committee member Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) said Thursday that information about Attorney General Jeff Sessions' conversations with a Russian ambassador "should never have made it to the public domain."
    "We cannot overlook the fact that the methodology of the collection and the content of that transcript never should have made into the public domain," Gowdy said in an appearance on MSNBC.

    The problem with that? No transcript has made it into the public domain. We didn't even know one existed. Until now.
    Cheers Trey, you thick twat! <laugh>
     
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  18. RobSpur

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    Again, where is the crime in having ties with russia ?

    The general narrative put out by the Democrats seem to be,

    "These guys want to get on with russia instead of treating them like some comtemptable scum on account of them being ruskies. This is completely outrageous"


    Durrrrrrrrr. Take a look at yourselves !!!!
     
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  19. PleaseNotPoll

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    You appear to have missed the whole corruption angle for some reason, Rob.
    Getting on with Russia would be great, but not if their President's a murderous dictator who has bought your political party.
     
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    So now the Vice-President and head of the EPA have both been caught using personal email for government business.
    Pence was hacked and Pruitt perjured himself in front of congress.
    Just how incompetent are these idiots?
     
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