The Leicester City "spiral" watch!

Brilliant summary. Nobody would have wanted to see him sacked but as you say, a lot of us can also see it was unfortunately necessary. Nobody knows what happened behind the scenes in terms of his tactics or how he was with the players etc so people should jump off the hate bandwagon being fuelled by the media and not slag the club off when they don't know the fact.
Well said Spaniard

 

With respect, what happened last night wasn't about tactics or team selections, it was about heart, desire and commitment.

That performance was everything that has been lacking from Leicester of late (barring about half an hour in the Seville last week)

When was the last time you saw Vardy literally blowing out of his arse at the end of a game? He ran his socks off yesterday, but hadn't got anywhere near that level of effort in the last few months. That's a personal choice not management. They decided to put a real shift in last night and hey presto you got a result, so it's not a bandwagon at all, what happened last night shows that they'd downed tools for Raneiri.

 

I did see your post earlier. I think where I agree with your earlier post is that we wont know who is right one way or the other.

Look at it this way, I've only seen the Leicester fans trying to justify his sacking AFTER the event. I didnt see many (if any) consistent opinion from any calling for his head during the season or even the last couple of months tbh.

 

Tell you what Carra is getting on my nerves again, he was having a go at Klopp saying that he's throwing Lucas under the bus playing him at CB. I defend Lucas quite a lot on here but along with Matip last night he just didn't understand that Leicester would lob it in behind for Vardy and neither read or reacted to this. That's not tactical that's in game common sense.

As soon as Leicester won the ball last night one of the CB's should be dropping straight off to give themselves a chance of dealing with his pace.

 

Spot on.

 

We didn't call for his head no and I personally never called for any manager but it's a difference between that and then when it has happened seeing the sense in it and backing the team/owners. I think it shows if anything that we aren't a fickle bunch

 

This, absolutely ****ing this

 

You can't disregard the tactics tbh, we smashed Man City at home (with Ranieri in charge) because they didn't adapt to counter attack either. The test will come on Saturday when we have more possession and will find it harder to score.

 

IMO it was those things as well but confidence being free to express themselves and TBH the media did the team talk for them! A lot of those things can be caused by confidence, to say they deliberately threw games to get him sacked is laughable (I appreciate that isn't your wording but it is of many people). It is a managers job to keep the team motivated and not to lose the confidence of them so that's all I've been trying I say really. What happened behind he scenes to make that happen? We won't find out as our owners have too much class and respect to kick him when he's down and come out with new information. It seems they'd rather take the wrath so fair enough.

 

And your revered uber coach couldn't tell them to do this? Like, as is his job.

 

I agree. Last night was about the opposition too and it looked a repeat of the Man City match so did happen under Ranieri. It's too soon to say we've turned a corner anyway, the coming games will be the test. Was it a one off or a pure reaction to the events or a long term change

 

The tinkerman reverted back to being a tinkerman this season, he made mistakes, poor tactical decisions, rotating the team too much etc etc

I can see how maybe some of the team was becoming frustrated by him behind the scenes. But effort shouldn't be reliant on how you feel about the manager, it should be a given. Unfortunately the modern millionaire PL footballer seems to often put his fragile ego ahead of the shirt on his back. It's not just Leicester, it's an ever increasing facet of the game and it's an insult to the fans who hand over their hard earned every week.

 

I agree with this particularly the first paragraph. I just think there must be a reason that the players lost confidence in him and that's obviously not been reported. It's clearly a combination of everyone, never denied that.

But out of interest, they're taking stick because of the performance last night. Does this go for every club who plays well after sacking a manager? Swansea and Hull have both sacked theirs. Sunderland do most seasons and other clubs from other decisions. Take Swansea, does this mean that they downed tools under Guidelin and Bradley and only started playing for Clement? Just interested in views on that

 

It's not his job, it's an obvious decision you need to make as a player during the game, it's not FIFA Klopp can't manage every choice a player makes, both our CB's were thick as last night.

 

New manager bounce is fairly standard, but you've not appointed one yet....

The reason last nights performance is coming under so much scrutiny, is because it was exactly how you were playing last season, chasing everything, winning every second ball and everyone leaving everything on the pitch. You won the league by playing with that level of passion and desire, and it miraculously re-appeared last night. It's the completely juxtaposed seasons that have put you in the spotlight and whilst the manager has to take a slice of the blame, it's the players who've not put it in imo.

 

I think people underestimate the fact that ranieri was the fall guy, it's taken a lot of pressure off of the players. That showed last night as they played without the shackles on.

 

Fair points, I would still class a caretaker manager in the bounce thing though as it's still different instructions and basically someone different in charge. The way we played last year is how we played before Ranieri (not that anyone took notice of us before then) but back in the championship it was exactly how we played, high energy, pressing from the front. From what I've heard and from what there was a reference to in Vardy'a interview, Ranieri has sounded like he had moved away from that and put the shackles on somewhat. Shakespeare has been with us for years and developed that style of play under Pearson so it doesn't need days/weeks on the training pitch practising tactics, all it needed was for him to give them different instructions more like what they did before, prior to what looks like changed by Ranieri

 

Couldn't play like that against us, could you

 

The point is that these managers didn't do anything to earn loyalty really, they came in, failed and went. That's what irks the other fans. We look at it from a fans perspective and just like we all applaude player loyalty to a club and curse a mercenery, we also see the treacherous Judas like behaviour from your players who should have ran a bit faster maybe? Got their foot in a bit quicker? things that as Tobes has mentioned should be a given..especially to help dig a man out of a hole, especially if that man made your career, helped you get massive contracts in the summer and made something out of a bunch of journeymen.

Maybe Ranieri had to go but it's difficult to see why his management had led to players forgetting to run or tackle this season, oh apart from in the CL...because they fancied the challenge.

I didn't see nothing different apart from intensity last night but I think Pool contributed to that massively. Be interesting to see how they play against teams that soak it up and play the 90 minute haul. I watched Swansea choke you boys to sleep by the 60th minute. last season your intensity would break such teams...not here this year apart from City and Pool at home, 2 open and attack minded teams for you to pop it over the back for that sprinter to run onto.

 

I hadn't seen your post but just used the same term below. Shackles, it seems to me like that's what was put on them resulting in drained confidence and hence easily rectifiable. Maybe not that simplistic but a highly contributing factor IMO