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I know the rules. If he wasn't intending to interfere or be involved in play he should have just not run into the box.

Otherwise he's in play. The fact someone else got to the ball first does not change that.
If Gabbiadini doesn't get to the ball and it comes to Bertrand he's offside, but it didn't, so he wasn't, learn the rules mate
 
He was running into the box because he dying for a piss and on his way to the dressing room. That's obvious to everyone, including all the United defenders and goalkeeper.

Had Gabbiadini not got to the ball just that split second before him he would have jumped over the ball as he had absolutely no intention whatsoever of touching it.

Obvs
 
He was behind the ball and didn't interfere with the keeper nor the defender who Gabbiadini got the better of.

We can add football to the long list of things you know **** all about


Try again Tiny Tim.

Another thing you obviously know nothing about


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Try again Tiny Tim.

Another thing you obviously know nothing about


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Thanks for proving my point sad act, the ball never arrived at his feet you clown and in no way is De Gea focussing on him. So he's not interfering with play you docile donk
 
TBF you can be interfering with play without the ball coming to you.
Only if you're in the keepers line of sight or have had some actual impact on the play.

Bertrand did neither
 
Only if you're in the keepers line of sight or have had some actual impact on the play.

Bertrand did neither

Are you seriously trying to tell me that Bertrand wouldn't have buried it if the ball had reached him?

He clearly had every intention of scoring if he got the chance, the fact he miss timed his run and got into an offside position is his and Southampton's tough ****.
 
Are you seriously trying to tell me that Bertrand wouldn't have buried it if the ball had reached him?

He clearly had every intention of scoring if he got the chance, the fact he miss timed his run and got into an offside position is his and Southampton's tough ****.
Of course he would and if the ball had gone to him he'd have been offside, but it didn't as a clearly ONSIDE player had already stuffed it into the back of the onion sack

The linesman could have only flagged him offside if the ball came to him, it's the rules, simple as.
 
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This is the rule...

Interfering with an opponent If an attacker interferes with an opponent by either preventing them from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent's line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which deceives or distracts an opponent, then they are offside.

Now, according to that, the official would have had to believe that De Gea was distracted by Bertrand's presence.

I'd say that's dubious, at best, but its obviously subjective.
 
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This is the rule...

Interfering with an opponent If an attacker interferes with an opponent by either preventing them from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent's line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which deceives or distracts an opponent, then they are offside.

Now, according to that, the official would have had to believe that De Gea was distracted by Bertrand's presence.

I'd say that's dubious, at best, but its obviously subjective.

Yeh that's how I see it... particularly the bit I've underlined <ok>
 
This is the rule...

Interfering with an opponent If an attacker interferes with an opponent by either preventing them from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent's line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which deceives or distracts an opponent, then they are offside.

Now, according to that, the official would have had to believe that De Gea was distracted by Bertrand's presence.

I'd say that's dubious, at best, but its obviously subjective.
He wasn't. <ok>
 
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That's the whole subjective point, was he though?

From the pic Kustard posted, it appears not...

I never go by pictures. In real time, I think the official could easily have given it either way and both sides would've felt aggrieved. Personally I look at the movement of Valencia towards Bertrand, not just De Gea. That's my subjective view.
 
I never go by pictures. In real time, I think the official could easily have given it either way and both sides would've felt aggrieved. Personally I look at the movement of Valencia towards Bertrand, not just De Gea. That's my subjective view.


There's no argument that the 'goal scorer' was onside. Did Bertrand distract De Gea, who I would assume the lino was looking at?

I'd say had Bertrand been in front of Gabbiardini, then yes, he's interning; but he wasn't, he was beyond him...
 
There's no argument that the 'goal scorer' was onside. Did Bertrand distract De Gea, who I would assume the lino was looking at?

I'd say had Bertrand been in front of Gabbiardini, then yes, he's interning; but he wasn't, he was beyond him...

Why just De Gea?

Does the rule state goalkeeper or opponent?