Because I'd like to see football returned to sane wages and prices which are more in-line with every day life. That's a matter for the FA and they're introducing some promising rules which come into effect next season (I believe). However I still think that the money that fans have put into the club should be reinvested in players and wages to get us promoted, and it's not Bates' battle to be fighting because the victims are us, not the players, agents or bigwigs. I hope that answers your slightly odd question.
Players are worth what you can afford, but definitely not what you can't. Better to be solvent than gamble the stability that has been built up.
99% of other Chairmen would have done a better job? That's not fact,that's supposition. Its a statement without foundation & wreaks of 'the grass is greener'syndrome. if you summise that we've gone backwards on the pitch in the last six years is it not maybe the fault of the managers & not neccessarily the Chairman? You use the examples of cash rich clubs who are throwing money at wages/transfers budgets through having rich owners or parachute payments therefore giving them an unfair advantage,but on the other hand fail to mention the likes of Blackpool,promoted on a shoestring. Maybe its just a case of wanting a Russian oligarch to buy Bates out to fast-track us to the PL,but life isn't like that for Leeds United. We always do things the hard way,& may I remind all the Bates Out crew that there's not a queue of billionaires wanting to buy Leeds United,just as there wasn't six years ago.
That's because the Blackpools make up only a small minority of the clubs who get promoted these days. And even in their promotion season, they spend more than we have this time round. You're right, it's supposition that 99% of chairmen would have done a better job and I presented it as fact to rhetorically fry your brains... But do you really doubt it? He's but absolutely naff all into the club and taken us backwards. Is it right to play it risky by wanting to be the unlikely exception to the promotion rule? Or is it wiser to play by the rules, spend the money we possess and consolidate a top-six place which can then be built on if we choke in the playoffs? The latter seems the more sensible option to me. And to be honest, I do blame Bates for our demotion and failure to progress during his tenure. His six year tenure. The buck stops with him where finances are concerned and where failure is concerned. If a manager or team is underperforming, a chairman has to step in and take control of the situation, either by making sure good players are bought or by replacing the manager. It helps to appoint good ones in the first place, of course, something which he's only managed once with Grayson and struck lucky with. The cash rich clubs are given an unfair advantage in a sense, you're right. And as I've said, that's a battle for the authorities to fight on the fans' behalf. Until that happens, we are a club who've had money available to spend and we've utterly bottled spending it because of Bates' reticence. Leeds United do do things the hard way, you're right, but as fans, we shouldn't stand up for a monster just because he's continuing an unfortunate tradition which we've taken to heart somewhat. Wilko was given money to spend and got us promoted. Revie was given money to spend and got us promoted. And that was decades ago. Grayson won't get us promoted unless he works a miracle or gets some money to spend. And you know what? Nor will any manager. Such is football in the 21st century. There's no way we can be sure of interest in Leeds United and you've thrown in the convenient 'billionaire' red herring. You don't need a billionaire, just a millionaire who's willing to put his money where his mouth is. Leeds is one of the most attractive propositions in world football, of course there's interest. It's just that Bates' pricetag, his brash manner and his persistence with not selling the club drives them away. If these figures are taking over Blackburn, Leicester, Hull, Brighton and all the others, of course there are people interested in buying Leeds.
How can you put someone with a world class talent, that entertains millions, in line with everyday life? Vernon Kay earns more than 25 thousand a week.
I said more in line with everyday life, not in line with it. It would help to restore loyalty to the game rather than the greed which rules it today and would make things better for the match attending fans who help make football such a special sport.
Leeds-18, you keep saying we have this money available and i dont see how you could possible KNOW this.
Well you didn't quite succeed in 'rhetorically frying my brains' but I'd better get some sleep as I have a business to worry about. I'm just glad that on top of that I've no longer the worry of whether I'll have a club left to support. I hope these demos won't have a detrimental affect on the team with the off-field distractions they'll inevitably cause because then I WILL be pissed off. You know how players look to blame anyone but themselves for a poor performance.
im afraid youve lost the plot a bit there 18. Leeds are a very big liability at present, you have zero assets, just come out of administration, no bank in the world would lend you money, your outgoings overwhelm your incomings. if it wasnt for the sale of players both past and present you would not survive, even if you brought in free transfers wages every week have to be paid, if you brought in 4 or 5 quality loan players thats an extra 50k per week minimal. you havnt got it no more. and to say it wont take a billionaire just a millionaire is ludicrus. how far do you think a million goes in football terms today ? not very far
you have actually got it spot on there mighty, i wouldnt say leeds are a very big liability but it is true that banks would not loan us money and even selling kasper for 1mil would only really cover one players wages over a year. I also agree with leedsinessex again, off the field matters does provide distrubance in the dressing room for whatever reason it may be, look at liverpool when they went through there little disturbance over the owners.
I can't see the point of these Bates Out demonstrations anyway,because A) by the time they have any effect he'll either have passed away or decided he doesn't want to continue into his eighties,& B)there are no creditable prospective buyers out there. You would think if someone was seriously interested they would make their interest known through various media sources,but the silence is deafening. In order for Bates to go there has to be someone willing to buy him out,but there's no-one otherwise we'd have heard about it by now. This kind of thing only serves to destabilise the club & has a knock on affect on the team. Does anyone really want that?
as football fans we all want whats best for the team we want success and we want it now,, as a businessman Bates wants whats best for Bates, he is keeping you afloat at present which is good, but whilst doing that he is using Leeds Uniteds money to re-develop the stadium,Once that is complete he will use Leeds Uniteds money to buy back the stadium at the already agreed price, Once thats complete he will use Leeds Uniteds money to get you into the prem. Once thats complete he will sell for a massive profit and leave..(if he dont die first) He can fulfill his aim sooner if by chance you make the prem. sooner,, but he will not risk breaking the bank to do it. At the end of the day its all good news for him and Leeds United but how long will it take who knows,,,, just my opinion before you bite my head off,, but wouldnt mind betting im not far out.
That's as good a theory as I've heard so far Mighty,did you break into Bates' office to uncover this information? A bit like Watergate....or Batesgate! I don't think you're far off there bud,just don't go blurting it out if you're anywhere near the Bates Out demo tomorrow
The Bates out demo needs to be careful bates is the type of guy to say ok im out and shut the lot down he can you know and he wont loose a nights sleep doing it,,,,,
He's almost 80, the old bastard won't be around long enough to fulfill his ambition, its just a waiting game lads, be patient.
I'd agree with you Mighty. Bates wants what is best for Bates but what's best for Bates is probably best for Leeds United aswell, i.e. Get to PL, sell to super rich businessman for huge profit.
I'd agree with you Mighty. Bates wants what is best for Bates but what's best for Bates is probably best for Leeds United aswell, i.e. Get to PL, sell to super rich businessman for huge profit. simon thats exactly what im saying m8 its good all round.......but its gonna take time.
