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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Hoddle is a god, Jan 17, 2016.

  1. I believe that sacking Ranieri will prove to be a mistake.

    However, I can see why the LCFC board panicked and did the dirty deed, and I can understand why many Foxes fans believe the board have acted correctly.

    As Pix says, it's easier to create the one scapegoat (the manager), than it is to attempt to root out the complexities of the real problem (the players).
     
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  2. Archers Road

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    Or one has a heart and the other is an ungrateful bastard?

    If there is no room for heart in modern football btw - which there clearly isn't - then what is the ****ing point, really?
     
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  3. I hear you, my friend!

    I remember being extremely aggrieved with my club when they sacked Martin Jol. It seemed to be brutally unfair, and nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction to his having had one off-ish season.
     
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    <laugh> Could you imagine if we signed Glen Hoddle?

    This forum would implode.
     
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  5. I'd be very pleased for you, if you did.

    He's a decent manager.
     
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    He's absolutely tragic. The game's moved on since he was last involved. You only have to watch one game on BT Sport to figure that out.
     
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    I don't think you have the players to do Glenn Hoddle's footballing philosophies any favours. You would have gone for Big Sam had he not taken the Palace post...you need someone who can raise a sinking ship and that is not everyone's Forte...it'll be a boring name.
     
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    Dead right mate. It's easy for Manc, Pool fans etc to say. Would they be happy in your position? I think not.
     
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    I'm sure Liverpool would be delighted to have finally won a premier league so I imagine they'd not be calling for their manager to be sacked.

    It's not really a like for like comparison though is it?

    Have Leicester won or come anywhere near winning the league in their entire previous history? No, they haven't (yes, I know they were runners up nearly a century ago)

    Should they be sacking the manager who did it? No, they shouldn't.
     
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    If he's taking them down, then I would say yes. And relegation for any team is a comparison in my eyes.
     
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  11. Archers Road

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    Martin Jol was **** though.
     
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  12. JohnTheFox

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    I'm not an ungrateful bastard thank you so I'll politely ask you not to make it personal.

    Ranieri gave us the best year of our football supporting lives and will never be forgotten. Get a statue up of the man!

    However I am not going to apologise for not living in the past and accepting the demise of my club. I have already stated the players should be ashamed but if they have decide not to play for Ranieri what is the point? Football is ****ed but by players, agents, money etc. It was the correct decision, in my opinion, for the long term interests of the club.
    Those bleating that it is all about sentiment and the past, well I'd love to see your thoughts if it was your club
     
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    Not really as you can always come back up.

    You as a Chelsea fan know that, as do I.

    Getting relegated does not negate the winning the league, that'll never be taken away.
     
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    Yep, I remember my club sacking Paul Sturrock, leaving the senior coach in charge for a while, then appointing Harry Redknapp to stave off relegation. That went well <ok>

    Last season Ranieri got a team of journeymen, with a couple of outstanding players and one on fire striker, to play well beyond their individual or collective capabilities. Miraculously, they sustained that for an entire season. And it was a bloody miracle. This season pretty much the identical set of players have been unable to replicate that. Instead, they have reverted to being the team who narrowly avoided relegation the season before, because that is their level of ability.

    Good luck staying up with the players you've got. As it happens I don't think you'll go down because there are other teams worse than you, but if you think a new managerial appointment is going to solve your current problems, dream on. You'll do well to get a replacement with anything like the class of Ranieri, as a man or as a manager.
     
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    With all respect, there's no point discussion it as like many others, you complete miss the point as to what is bothering us.

    The abuse directed towards our club and the owners from people who are clearly not Leicester fans is despicable. Do you think it's right that our owner is getting racially abuse over social media for it?
     
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    Sense at last !
    I , like our owners had unwavering support for Claudio when the vote of confidence was given but I really believe things went on to get even worse ,as far as league form was concerned !
    I loved Ranieri but it was clear that something was very wrong behind the scenes !
    I think that he had also lost the original Coaching Staff as well as most of the dressing room and would even go as far as to say most of those, especially Shakey and Stowell , were never completely on board the Claudio bandwagon in the first place ?
    I do however have total trust in the decisions our honest and loyal owners make and their reasons for making them along with whatever actions they take enforcing them !
    Thank you for your fantastic efforts and achievements Claudio !
    Good Luck Sir.
     
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    Don't know mate, I'm not on Facebollocks and I leave twatter to the self important ****ers it was designed for, so I have no idea what abuse your owners may be getting on social media.

    No one is abusing anyone on here, as far as I can see. I just think a decent man has been appallingly treated by a club whose owners don't appear to have a clue, but as you say, it's not my club.

    I just don't see how any Leicester fan who supports this sacking can ever complain about disloyalty from players, in the unlikely event of you ever again having any players who the big clubs might want
     
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    I see what you're saying Chief, but if you can avoid relegation in the first place, then do it. I think it's more difficult to guarantee promotion back up now than it was back then.
     
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    So you're saying we should openly accept relegation because we're not a big club?

    Nice.
     
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    I only use FB but have seen the abuse the owner is getting that is unacceptable.

    Our owners are an absolute class act and come from the most respectful culture there is. Since the first year or so when they made the Sven mistake, the only manager they have sacked (until last night) was Pearson. They stuck with him through thick and thin and his sacking was not down to on the pitch issues as they were loyal through that but due to an untenable position off the pitch.

    What people don't seem to realise is that it's that again. They haven't made a snap decision based on results, the relationships internally seem to have become untenable and forced their hand. They are quiet, respectful people and the idea of them firing managers unless it is an absolute crisis behind the scenes is ludicrous
     
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