Most sensible Leeds fans will tell you that Simon Grayson is uninspiring, tactically inept, poor in the transfer market and a poor man-manager who refuses to develop young talent, makes decisions which defy logic and comes out with ludicrous statements. He fails to fulfill any of the basic criteria of a football manager. Yet he still seems to be viewed as a hero by many. While chants of 'Bates out!' can be heard at Elland Road so can 'There's only one Simon Grayson.' Why can't people see that Grayson is part of the problem? He isn't suffering from a lack of ambition at the club, he's the biggest sign of it! By supporting Grayson, fans are supporting the current situation at the club. I can't see Bates going anywhere, and if he does, who will take over? I can only hope that he reacts to the fans wanting him out by getting a better manager to improve things on the pitch. However, the danger is that he won't want to risk the wrath of the fans even further by getting rid of their beloved Simon, so we end up with the ridiculous situation of the majority of fans almost forcing Bates to risk relegation. I think part of the reason Gus Poyet wasn't chosen to replace McAllister was that the fans would remember his Chelsea connections at the first sign of trouble. If the fans demand Grayson's removal and insist that the most important criteria for a manager is that they're good at the job, then the club might start to go forward again. And then we may be in a position to get the owner everyone wants.
For the money we can pay and who's available Grayson is a great manager. It's not his fault that Bates won't open the purse strings. If players don't come to Leeds it's not for lack of Grayson trying. Where did this idea that a manager is the be-all and end-all of a team come from? There's 11 men on the pitch, many of whom are not following instructions or look like they'd rather be at home in bed. Lay the blame where it belongs, and not at Grayson's feet.
I haven't read this post but the title says it all. CT you are tedious little man and you really need to do one.
I’m not Grayson biggest fan, but stop putting everything at his door Clive. You are like a broken record darling. Grayson is looking more like a rabbit in the headlights every fooking game but even I know he’s been under pressure with no war chest from the old bastard. If the players don’t buck up and get results he will be gone anyway and I wont be bothered if I’m honest. I don’t sing there’s only One Simon Grayson, simply because he’s also been a liability at times BUT he is not the main problem Clive. Bates is.
So mature to resort to name calling Marko… Yo Mamma! BTW did you have fun in town on Tuesday night?
Doesn't state any evidence to back up the points. Might as well be a rant from Jeff Onegameaseason Leedsfan down the pub.
he deserves it for being such an obnoxious little so and so! oh you did not just dis on my momma. tell me you didn't dis on my momma! yes I did, thanks. I had a wonderful time, eventually. Was a bit touch and go until full time but after that I was able to relax. Thank fook for Ramon Nunez, or my night could have been ruined!
Has anyone thought that given Grayson's transfer and loan dealings - McShefferey, Collins, Bessone, Paynter, Livermore and unless he improves soon Brown to mention just a few - and the players he puts out on loan until they prove to be good ( which others knew all the time anyway) - Somma, Lees, Clayton, Nunez, that he can't judge players and/or can't develop them at Leeds? Furthermore given Bates apparently blocking the signing of Mendy and the obvious strict transfer and wage budget that he too has loss confidence in Grayson's ability to identify the right purchases?
I agree with a lot of what CT says. Grayson has made mistakes, but some of what you say is bull****. You say he's uninspiring - what about when we turned round a 1-0 half deficit to win 2-1 and get promotion on the last day of the season with 10 men. Or when we were 2-0 away at Burnley but ended up winning 3-2. Lets be honest, you have no clue as to whether he's inspiring or not. Does any manager really sound inspiring in his interviews? No, because simply there isn't that much a manager can say in an interview. You say he's a poor man manager - what about when he gave Becks the armband? Or turning Gradel from Mad Max to becoming the star of our season? He refuses to develop youth? Well that's just rubbish you could never back up. Our captain is 23. He played Delph, Johnson, Gradel, Snodgrass - all young players. He gave debuts to Lees and Taylor the other night. Maybe the reason behind the lack of youth players coming through in recent years is to do with the academy - which is why Thompson was sacked. You are right about his tactics, he does get them wrong sometimes. But he often has made decisions with subs, tactics that have pulled off big results. I'd also take any of his work in the transfer market with a pinch of salt. Yes players like O'Dea are crap. He signs poor players. But he's been given no money to spend. If a manager was offered money for transfers, he doesn't turn that down. The transfers are to do with Bates. Some of the players we are linked to are quality, but they never come to Leeds because Grayson isn't allowed to spend money to bring them here. He has to settle for his 3rd/4th choice targets on free transfers and low wages. The problem is Bates. If Grayson was given £2/3million this transfer window to spend (which he should have been instead of the £7million East Stand boxes) then you can put him under pressure and say we should be doing better. But the fact is our squad is ****. It's just not good enough. He publicly stated he wanted Kilkenny and Johnson to stay. He wanted Beckford to sign a new deal. Ofcourse he wants Gradel, Snoddy etc. tied down to longer deals. But they aren't because of the tiny wage structure. The squad is poor, because he doesn't get the chance to build a promotion winning squad.
Most fans want Bates out Most fans chant only one Simon Grayson Stands to reason Clive you are the one in the wrong, I have asked before and will ask again, say Grayson walks tomorrow due to having no funds, what muppet is going to be 1)available 2) willing to take over a team with zero funding 3) work under a tosser of a chairman
IP check? So he gets in unknown players and exploits the loan market to develop them into our star assetts and that's a bad thing?
to all those who are starting to claim "Maybe Grayson has no money because Bates doesn't trust him with it to make good signings", if that were true he'd have been sacked. Why keep a manager who can't make decent signings? If you can't make decent signings you're going nowhere. He's not suddenly going to start making better decisions with signings just because he hasn't any money to spend. It's just grasping at straws to make Grayson look bad, and it's pathetic. Anyone with half a brain knows Bates is tighter than a nuns asshole, and that it's starting to cause more and more problems.
When Grayson does go, good luck to the poor sod who takes over because whoever it is, I'm sure there will be fans who won't like him. Until Bates goes and we get some bent foreign sugar daddy with loads of cash, we ain't going no where. IMO Grayson can only work with what he's got, bringing someone else in won't make a bit of difference.
It's not even that we need a billionaire to take us over. Just a chairman willing to spend the money that the club itself generates!
