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Arsenal vs Chelsea Match Thread.

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by TheBear, Feb 4, 2017.

  1. EmirAleks

    EmirAleks Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I have just unsubscribed from SkySports.
     
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  2. TheBear

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    Yeah he was OK - but for a player of his abilities he's still letting us down.
     
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  3. cini65

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    20% of all of our goals conceded this season in all competitions have come today and in the home game against Liverpool.
    Almost entirely agree. Apart from the last word. He's been poor for years and years.
     
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  4. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Well that was embarrassing. We were suppose to be challenging for the title yet produced one of our ****tiest games of the season when we desperately needed the points. It shows poor commitment and strength as a team. I got it totally wrong, i really thought that they got better as a team, but what they did in fact is get better individually. We have more quality and depth but have the same old issues surfacing time and time again. Surely even the most ardent fans of Wenger can see that the manager is the main issue why we can't seem to challenge anymore?

    A very disappointing end to our league prospects.
     
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  5. TheBear

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    This used to be the busiest board but Arsenal fans have just lost all enthusiasm over the last few Seasons.
     
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  7. BrunelGooner

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    We never stood a chance to be honest. Apart from the 3-0, Chelsea have our number and have done for several years now.

    They were just better than us in every part of the pitch. We were very weak in the tackle and made numerous lapses in concentration at the back. Our defensive transitions were also very poor and no-one seemed to know where to position themselves.

    Never took advantage of our width and even though we were limited to a handful of chances, some of those still should have been taken. Ozil's and Gabriel's in particular.

    Coquelin should be fined and banned from playing for the next month for his useless attempt of a challenge on Hazard. How can a player like that get shrugged off so easily?

    As for Cech, let's be honest with ourselves here - he just isn't the same player anymore. His reactions are slower and he's more error-prone. Chelsea mugged us off there.

    New goalkeeper, left-back and central midfielder needed in the Summer. By the looks of it, we're going to need another striker as well because I can't see Alexis sticking around. Or Ozil either, but I'm not as concerned about him.

    Most of all though, we need a new manager. I am really hoping Wenger can swallow his pride and accept that his time is up at the end of the season.

    I don't care if we win every game from now until the end of the season; none of that will make up for the mistakes he's made in the past 11 years. We just never, ever seem to learn.
     
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  8. Sidney Fiddler

    Sidney Fiddler Well-Known Member

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    You were pretty up the kyber today .
    Why not start with Giroud as he least is a threat , he's your best option as Walcott is a poor man's Tony Daley . Tatically Wenger ballsed that up . It's always hard against the Chavs with their dodgy bent money from that Russian geezer but you played into their hands .
    However put your feet up , have a plate of winkles , think of Bristol City with a little Bridjit Bardot doing the can can..

    Chin up
    A compassionate Sid.
     
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    The thing is, whenever we start with Giroud he's awful and we ask for him to go off at half time
     
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  10. remembercolinlee

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    That's a brutal post <yikes>
     
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    I dont really agree with that. We could easily have scored 2-3 in the first half. Didn't play well but still opened them up on a few occasions. Had we taken our chances we could easily have got something out of this game.

    Chelsea were good but they weren't that good.

    Cech's still Top Class.

    We certainly need a additions in CM. It seems without Carzorla we dont look a top class side. He is really the guy who makes us tick.

    I would sell Ramsey, Oxo, Gabriel.
     
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  12. lazarus20000

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    The big question after this will be, Will....

    Sanchez sign a new contract
    Ozil sign a new contract
    Wenger sign a new contract
     
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  13. Quilllogic

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    But oh so true !
     
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  14. BrunelGooner

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    No wonder. It's been groundhog day for the last 11 years. Same shortcomings each season. Everything is just stale at the moment yet the Arsenal board seem content with maintaining everything as it is and aren't willing to make the ruthless decisions that have been necessary for years now.

    Arsenal fans are partly to blame as well because we've not been vocal or consistent enough in our dissatisfaction with the club. Maybe it's because the average fan is priced out of matches these days, but it's true when someone said we have middle-class apathy.
     
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  15. remembercolinlee

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    I think the things outsiders find confusing is that EVERY YEAR this happens at this time of the year yet your club seem taken aback when it happens
     
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    Have to disagree. You created maybe a few clear chances, but in every game even against the cannon fodder, you will always concede chances. I don't think i've seen you guys get dominated so much in that second half, every 50/50 our players were beating you to it and for some shocking final passes up front, you were so open at the back from the counter.

    Alexis was well off it today. I still think Cech is good, obviously he made a mistake but he's still a top keeper, makes some great saves and is confident in the air. The person saying keep WS forgot what a liability he was. Have you forgotten how much of a liability his decision making was!
     
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  17. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Is it a myth that Arsenal's season goes tits up when it hits Jan/Feb, or is there hard facts to support this?
     
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    We weren't at our best but still too strong. I rate Cazorla, cracking player. <ok>
     
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  19. remembercolinlee

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    Pretty certain it is around feb that everything goes wrong and then you turn it round in march and april to keep top 4
     
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  20. BrunelGooner

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    I'm not really sure what you're disagreeing with. Chelsea have had our number for the past 6 years. Since we last beat them in 2011 at SB, we have lost every single game there since. They've also beaten us more times at our ground than we have beaten them since 2011. So they are a bogey side for us whether you want to accept it or not, the facts show they are.

    It doesn't matter how we play, they always seem to get the last laugh. Which was the point of that comment.

    Yes we did have some chances, and I admitted that, but they also could have scored more as well.


    Come on now. Don't kid yourself. When was the last time you saw Cech have an amazing game? Or he pulled off a save that had your eyebrows raised? Because I honestly can't recall.
     
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