No chance Frenchie.. We are going as childcare. Meanwhile my back is so bad after 5 hours on the train.. I am flat out in my room
I don't feel sorry for them one bit. If it were not for their class status they would be locked up and the key thrown away.
Morning, Dave; morning, all. Interesting trip to the vet yesterday. Our smallest cat had the vet for breakfast. She's wriggly, very strong and defeated him trying to give her a pill. I held her as she wriggled, hissed and tried to scratch and bite the vet. She resisted several times and just as he thought he had her, she spat it out. As I knew how to hold her and stop her getting hurt, hurting him or me, he treated me like I was Ron Ely afterwards. Mrs Andy was taking the Mickey all the way home.
Interesting perspective - cleared of any wrongdoing by the Portuguese judiciary & not suspected at all by British police after an extensive investigation, yet you deem them guilty. On what evidence? And what on earth do you mean by 'class status'? They are two people who both bettered themselves by becoming medical professionals through extensive study and hard work. Surely nothing deserving of being so dismissive?
Morning all, no sleep at all last night as the predicted strong winds and rain arrived and gave this old house a right battering. Everything seems to be intact which is a relief. We had planned to visit some friends this morning, about 100 kms away, but have put it off as some of the roads run through heavily wooded areas, and it is quite likely that there will be trees down.
I do have to smile when I read the UK newspapers some days. According to one this morning, there is "panic buying" of iceberg lettuce, broccoli and aubergines all due to the bad weather in Spain. Just who needs to get a grip here? The public or the press?
If it was a lower class family, they would have been scorned with words such as typical lazy benefit cheats, neglecting their children. But no a professional background, smart dress and financial ability says they get treated different. They neglected their children on foreign shores, they knew before they went on holiday there was no child care facility and if they didn't surely they should have checked. As you have said yourself two people who bettered themselves through extensive study and hard work...Shame they didn't apply the same effort in child care on that dreaded night, study before they went and work to ensure one of the group stayed with the children. They may have thought their children were safe but I'm sure in their profession they know what thought did!
I guess we'll just have to disagree on the 'class' issue - the fact that they could merely afford to have an overseas holiday seems to have touched a nerve. 'Neglect' is a bit strong - they did what every other holidaying family undoubtedly did up until then and dined at a restaurant overlooking their holiday apartment, with a plan to conduct regular checks on their sleeping children. Would your stereotypical 'lower class' family - the one that everyone believes leaves their kids on the pub doorstep with a packet of crisps & a lemonade - be any different? Somehow I doubt it.
Afford a holiday, touching a nerve, I don't get that bit? I can assume I've had more luxurious holidays then they ever had...And never left my lads alone, so I believe I have every right to speak out. I've known kids taken into care for far, far less than their negligence. But being smart dressed professionals cast different moral rules than the rest. They can keep shouting their innocence until their dying day but in my book they were negligent and of their professional standing should have known better. Some might say the children stood in the way of their professional freedom but I will stay just short of that but why they have not been arrested on British shores is beyond me.
Well fair play to you - but that doesn't mean the McCanns were in the wrong. What they did is generally more accepted practice on the Continent. And I will stay a long way from that - what they did was the accepted norm there by visiting families & had nothing at all to do with 'professional freedom'. It was all about children going to bed whilst parents had dinner with friends. It's simple really - you only get arrested after committing a crime. What they did isn't a crime, either here or in Portugal.
Child neglect is a crime. The only difference is they can afford decent lawyers. And how do you know they did not commit any additional crimes, only a very small group of people know factually what happened that evening, if not only the two of them. The fact is a child is missing possibly dead due to their selfish failures as parents. It's all well and good saying something is an accepted practise, even so....It does not mean it is not neglect.
UK law states that babies and toddlers should NEVER be left alone and you face prosecution and prison for doing so. NSPCC and Government websites.
